Thanks again Artemis, I really appreciate it. I have watched the video but did 
not find an answer.

Please bear with me just one more iteration 🙂

Maybe I'll be more specific:
Suppose I start the application with maxExecutors=500, executors.cores=2, 
because that's the amount of resources needed for the ETL part. But for the DL 
part I only need 20 GPUs. SLS API only allows to set the resources per 
executor/task, so Spark would (try to) allocate up to 500 GPUs, assuming I 
configure the profile with 1 GPU per executor.
So, the question is how do I limit the stage resources to 20 GPUs total?

Thanks again,
Shay

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  Shay,  You may find this video helpful (with some API code samples that you 
are looking for).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNQu-226wUc&t=171s.  The 
issue here isn't how to limit the number of executors but to request for the 
right GPU-enabled executors dynamically.  Those executors used in pre-GPU 
stages should be returned back to resource managers with dynamic resource 
allocation enabled (and with the right DRA policies).  Hope this helps..

Unfortunately there isn't a lot of detailed docs for this topic since GPU 
acceleration is kind of new in Spark (not straightforward like in TF).   I wish 
the Spark doc team could provide more details in the next release...

On 11/3/22 2:37 AM, Shay Elbaz wrote:
Thanks Artemis. We are not using Rapids, but rather using GPUs through the 
Stage Level Scheduling feature with ResourceProfile. In Kubernetes you have to 
turn on shuffle tracking for dynamic allocation, anyhow.
The question is how we can limit the number of executors when building a new 
ResourceProfile, directly (API) or indirectly (some advanced workaround).

Thanks,
Shay


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  Are you using Rapids for GPU support in Spark?  Couple of options you may 
want to try:

  1.  In addition to dynamic allocation turned on, you may also need to turn on 
external shuffling service.
  2.  Sounds like you are using Kubernetes.  In that case, you may also need to 
turn on shuffle tracking.
  3.  The "stages" are controlled by the APIs.  The APIs for dynamic resource 
request (change of stage) do exist, but only for RDDs (e.g. TaskResourceRequest 
and ExecutorResourceRequest).

On 11/2/22 11:30 AM, Shay Elbaz wrote:
Hi,

Our typical applications need less executors for a GPU stage than for a CPU 
stage. We are using dynamic allocation with stage level scheduling, and Spark 
tries to maximize the number of executors also during the GPU stage, causing a 
bit of resources chaos in the cluster. This forces us to use a lower value for 
'maxExecutors' in the first place, at the cost of the CPU stages performance. 
Or try to solve this in the Kubernets scheduler level, which is not 
straightforward and doesn't feel like the right way to go.

Is there a way to effectively use less executors in Stage Level Scheduling? The 
API does not seem to include such an option, but maybe there is some more 
advanced workaround?

Thanks,
Shay







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