+1 I personally do not find what you have to or can do with Struts much of
a problem at all. I like the freedom the separation gives me. It is
rather like the defensive idea of Aaron Nitzovitch in chess. If you just
defend a square or piece as much as required, all the defensive pieces are
tied down. However, if you add an additional defender, then all your
pieces incorporated into the defense are free to abandon that task and a
very interesting and deep interchange of offense and defense results. The
separation of functions in Struts does this for me. I think I prefer the
Struts approach to the JSF approach as well, although like everyone else, I
would like and try to achieve a hybrid for my purposes.
Michael
At 01:29 PM 6/17/2004, Hubert Rabago wrote:
> From: Frank Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Most likely you would have a ShoppingCart class with a number of methods
in it,
> things like addItem(), removeItem(), totalPrice(), etc.
I follow this design on my applications, on the *business logic* tier.
On that tier (whether I implement it as EJBs or POJOs), I would have an
actual business object that would have these methods.
I tend to look at Struts as a necessary add-on to the application to give
it a web front end.
To me, my web application isn't "a collection of services that are executed
to form a coherent larger application", rather it's just an interface
to the actual application that runs on the server.
--- "Hookom, Jacob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With Struts, I have to create an ActionForm objects (can't just use a
> business object I already have), and then create separate Action objects
to
Because of the way I view my app, I have no problem separating my view of the
objects in my interface and my app's business objects. I fully understand
the need for separate ActionForm objects (users work with untyped string
values, my business tier works with typed values, the Action object goes in
between). Still, I don't like having to create string-ified counterparts of
my business objects. That's how the FormDef project began (
http://www.rabago.net/struts/formdef and http://formdef.dev.java.net/ ).
I haven't tried JSF yet, but I don't think I want my business tier objects
"contaminated" with presentation-tier specifics, such as the callback methods
JSF needs on their managed beans.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Frank
>
Hubert
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