To Frank's point, I am sometimes one of those users who turn off JavaScript ;-) But, it's a moot point, because, as I see it, no one's website should depend on JavaScript for it to be fully functional anymore than it should wholly rely on CSS. These are technologies that enable powerful usability, but websites should gracefully degrade when they are not available.
So Ajax should add "nice to have's", but not "must have's". -----Original Message----- From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:14 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Cc: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: AJAX: Whoa, Nellie! Users that turn off JS are akin, in my mind, to automobile drivers who decide they would rather play Fred Flintstone, cut holes in the floorboards and not bother starting the engine. Oh, you'll get around, but your missing out! While I am certainly not trying to say there aren't very legitimate concerns with using JS, like most things they are overcome with knowledge and ability. I mean, no one complains because Windows ships with fdisk and format, they are at least as dangerous potentially! -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex Technologies http://www.omnytex.com On Mon, April 18, 2005 1:06 pm, Fogleson, Allen said: > Although I will admit the usefulness overall of javascript and in > specific AJAX's use thereof I still have an uneasy feeling whenever you > are using JS. Users, in general, have become smarter security wise and > many are turning off JS altogether. Unfortunately there is no other > client side "secure" technology to replace js so I guess we are stuck > with it :) > > Al > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:56 AM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: AJAX: Whoa, Nellie! > > As soon as IE becomes open source we can start that. Until then, or > until IE's market share drops into single digits we're forced to deal > with browsers as a given. Besides, much of the visceral dislike for > javascript is based on older browsers that were not at all consistend. > Trying to write cross-browser IE4-NS4 javascript is often an exercise in > > frustration. In the IE6 - Moz 1.7 Firefox 1.0x (sorry I'm not a Mac guy > > so I don't know the current ver for its browser) most problems can be > avoided by using DOM compliant code rather than IE specific code. This > ain't yer daddy's DHTML. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck & Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp & Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
