Rick-

Agreed..
If tiles has no support in JSF then you might as well throw tiles into the mix If there is anything to be gained it is that your learning curve has to accelerate to assimilate new technologies as the older technologies are discarded.
From my perspective I think the market drives the more proprietary
technologies to be discarded for open source
As in a race we only remember the guy that came in quickest

Martin-

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Reumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <user@struts.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Who decides?


Craig McClanahan wrote the following on 9/10/2005 1:10 AM:

* I took my own advice when *I* was in college :-), and have a Business Administration degree, with an emphasis in Accounting. You'd think (from the outside) that there couldn't possibly be a profession that changes slower than accounting, but I can guarantee you that this is not the case. Once you get past double entry bookkeeping, everything I learned in college (even if I remembered it all, 30 years later) would be totally obsolete.

* The same sort of thing happens in scientific fields all over the map. For example, I aced a test on Astronomy by (among other things) nothing that Jupiter had 12 moons, Saturn had 9, and so on. Those facts were considered true at the time ... but not any more.

* Would you trust a doctor today to diagnose you with a 1950s medical education? Or even a 1990s medical education? Like basically all professions, medicine (and software) assume that a lifetime of learning new things is a fundamental requirement for success.

Although the above is true, there is a big difference from the fields you mention above and the IT field. Other professions build much more upon previous knowledge and experience. Sure the doctor might learn new techniques for performing open heart surgery, but I doubt he's throwing away everything he learned previously about the heart. Even his experience in performing surgery should increase over time.

With IT, I've noticed that previous knowledge only helps slightly. Yes, a seasoned programmer will more valuable than someone right out of college, yet once that college grad has about 5 years (maybe less) experience, I would not say that he's necessarily any less valuable than the programmer who has been programming for 10 or more years. The deciding factor will then become who's been keeping up more with the latest technologies. Previous experience becomes much less important.

With other professions I don't see this being the case as much. My background is in biology (BS degree) and education (masters degree). Even though in science things change at a rapid pace, previous experience in the field is still highly valued. A new planet might be discovered, but you are still working with the same old planets as well. Same thing I'm sure can be said for most other professions. Things build upon each other much more on other professions. Even if it's not pure 'fact type' knowledge, just basic experience in other profession is much more valuable. A police officer, fireman, teacher, construction worker - even in those fields just time itself in the profession can really have a large impact in your skill and value.

Information Technology is very frustrating because certain things you learn can be COMPLETELY thrown out in a very short while. Take for instance something that hits home directly to me. I'm now in the process of learning JSF. All the time spent learning struts and even JSTL is basically thrown out the window if I end up coding with JSF. Same thing would be said if I jumped over to .NET. I can't think of a profession that throws away as much 'old' knowledge as the IT field.

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Rick

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