Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/02/2005 03:11:48 PM: > Don Brown wrote the following on 12/2/2005 12:44 AM: > > When we started Struts Ti, it was conceived as a new > > framework that aimed to simplify the developers life requiring no > > configuration, > > What??!!!! No configuration? You mean you aren't using the Spring/ EJB/ > JASS/ RMI/ Hibernate/ JMS/ Struts/ Maven/ XDoclet/ Ajax/ AspectJ/ > WebServices/ 1050 XML confif files/ KitchenSink solution? That framework
> must suck. > > But all kidding aside, that's my biggest complaint right now with Java > solutions that seem to be pushed - Too many 'extra' parts that you need > and lack of good documentation and/or examples in getting started. > Rick, enjoyed your rant - Fridays don't come by often enough..;) A couple of days ago I decided to set everything down and do some reading since I was getting sick of not being "sure" of stuff. And found this site: http://www.jsftutorials.net/. Yes, I know, it is mentioned in other places, but I don't think anyone has singled it out as a *really* good site for a JSF newbie. I just spent most of the day reading through a lot of the stuff there and guess what, by the end of the day, I felt pretty good about JSF and decided it isn't all that difficult after all. In fact the past couple of days have been quite easy - none of the usual unsettling thoughts like "I think this should work,.. let's see.. ahh it does work! Cool... hmm... but am not sure why this works and the other thing doesn't..? oh well, better move on and hope it continues to work on Tuesdays too!". What's more, now even posts from Simon Kitching on the MyFaces list are starting to make sense. Plus Shale is losing it's scary face! Is that cool or is that cool?!! :) Hence this note is for all those disheartened newbies out there who feel that JSF is just taking far too long to "feel like home": Tell your boss you have a headache, go home, and read some of the stuff on jsftutorials.net. JSF/Shale (and life) will seem far sweeter. :) > -- > Rick > Geeta
