On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 08:47 -0800, Dakota Jack wrote:
> You originally said that your list was the virtual core of J2EE.  That's

No. I never said "virtual core".

> what you said.  You call someone a pedant when you want to demean something
> they taught you.  Anyway, for your "pedantic" purposes:

Or when they're being pedantic. Here is what I said, exactly.

"I would argue that with Java (J2EE specifically) "standards" have
largely just "emerged". Think of all the examples.

Tomcat
Ant
Struts
JUnit
Hibernate

That's, by and large, the "standard" J2EE toolkit. And by that I mean
that while we may have WebSphere, Tapestry, Maven, EJBs, etc. there's a
certain concensus out there and the tools in the first list are what
have the mindshare now."

I never said THAT was J2EE. I never said THAT was the reference
implementation of J2EE. I said that's the standard toolkit. i.e The
tools used to do J2EE development. I really don't see what is wrong with
what I said that you would take things this far. What is your deal?

> This is not difficult, but it is not Hiberate, Struts, etc. either.  If you
> think this is "pedantic", perhaps I should point out that the whole trouble
> here is based on your sweet sciolism.  You are right, we would not work well
> together.  I am far too "pedantic" to work with anyone stuck on sciolism for
> effect.

??????

I was talking about what I believed to be the standard toolkit for doing
J2EE development. And you've been jack-hammering me over the head post
after post after post for saying that. I don't get it. Seriously.

Preston


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