Steve Raeburn wrote:
Some people seem to look at Shale being part of the Struts project as a sign that one person controls the project and always gets his own way. In fact, that is the complete opposite of the truth. That Shale is now a Struts sub-project was a result of a disagreement between committers over the future of Struts and what should become Struts 2.0. IMHO that disagreement was handled in a very mature, thoughtful way which resulted in Shale becoming a subproject and a peer to Struts Action, rather than replacing it. The jury's still out on which will become more widely used, but that's not really the point. Both can happily co-exist here and one does not have to fail for the other to succeed.
I think for me I had a problem with Shale under the Struts umbrella when Shale was being considered as the next Struts. The problem arose for me because at the same time you had a couple of other potential "next Struts", and it made the whole project look directionless.
This is a big part of where I was coming from with my whole diatribe on responsibility to the community... I think for a while things were, or at least could be perceived to be, disjointed, confusing and potentially anxiety-producing for many people. It is no longer any of those things as far as I can see. For me, this was rectified a few months ago, and I sincerely compliment the PMC for it.
I don't have a big problem with Shale where it is now... I'm not sure it's the perfect place, I think if I had my druthers it would be on its own, but I don't see it as being some egregious decision where it is now. I even think some of the stated reasons for it make sense.
In short, that part of this thread is someone else' fight, not mine :)
So, there *is* healthy disagreement, non-committers *are* listened to during the discussion and then a decision is made and we move on. Sometimes ;-)
That's cool! Thanks for the insight Steve!
Steve
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