So, Alexandre, do you think there are testing problems with Struts 1.x? Do you think I have the obligation to teach the foundation of this well-known fact to these folks? If you know the answer and you are so all-mighty, why don't you take the reins? You are the troll. That is the fact. I have said nothing personal. I have merely answered a question and when faced with a followup declined to teach fundamental design issues. You are the one being personal. I find it really laughable that crap like this is supported by the committers and stuff like mine is treated as trolling. You toadies to the process are the ones that always start this crap. The truth is that you don't know shit. If you did, you would be all over this question. Backward compatibility is never a reason to trash a product. You go through a process of deprecation.
On 3/30/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't bother about him Bart. I said it and I will say it again, he is > a troll. I tried to have a constructive discussion with him several > times. It always ends up in personal attacks (go read some books and > come back...) but he is the one never backing up his claims. I am all > for freedom of speech and CONSRUCTIVE CRITICISM but I think people > have been REALLY tolerant with him. I can't count how many times he > bashed Craig freely or any other commiters. It sounds like jalousy to > me. Dakota, this list is owned by Apache and you are a guess here. It > is not an absolute right. > > Honestly, I begin to think Shale should move to another place because > the amount of noise on this list is terrible. I don't write a lot on > this list but I do read it a lot and this noise is getting really out > of control. Thank to 2 guys who have decided Apache doesn't fit their > point of view and therefore anybody who don't think the same way are > wrong . Here's a clue : you can take the code, evolve it and start > your own community then quite BUGGING US with your childish fights > since you will be so successful. > > By the way, for those who may believe those guys, Struts 1.x didn't > not evolve as fast as WebWork for one reason : API Backward > compatibilit, something very important to frameworks. This is one of > the reason this community is so huge. Is it that hard to understand ? > For instance, it has been well known since a long time that sending an > HttpServletRequest's instance to actions was a bad idea and a neutral > context object should have been used instead but it hasn't been > changed to keep the API consistant. Hence the need for a version 2.0. > WebWork technically already gots it right but always lacked (from what > I heard) a big user community, something Struts has always enjoyed > because of its commitment to backward compatibility. So both > frameworks win in this merge especially given the strong competition > coming from components-oriented frameworks. Technical excellence is > not the only success factor. Only idealists think this way. > > On 3/30/06, Bart Busschots <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dakota Jack wrote: > > > > >Dion, you are obviously really green. Please read a bit and then come > > >back. Do you have any idea about architecture and design and testing > > >issues? > > > > > > > > > > > This is an example of the kind of post this list could do without. The > > above post basically boils down to: > > > > "you disagree with me so you must be uneducated, go read up some and > > then come talk with the big boys" > > > > I'm sorry but that is just insulting and most un-helpful. Jack, please > > explain your point of view so us mere > > mortals can actually learn something rather than being all smug and > > superior on people who dissagree with > > you. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bart. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > Alexandre Poitras > Québec, Canada > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~
