Hi, I tried logo option #4 on the website. Screenshot located at: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTZ0FFM2I0WnpwWlE
As you can see, the dragon itself works well due to the fact that the bulk of the body is of a darker blue. Alas, the font family doesn't work well with Telex ( https://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Telex), which is what the web site uses via the bootswatch theme. Overall, the font in the logo would be too hard to read if applied to the overall website. The light-blue color on the word "Apache" doesn't work either; it's better to use the dark color from the dragon's body. The "Transactional-SQL-on-Hadoop" slogan is lost due to the black font color of "Trafodion", which is why I suggest a singular color for all of "Apache Trafodion" — it's easy to add slogans underneath the logo with text that way. To me, this experiment validates that the logo itself is fine but there's a little more work on the text associated with the logo to finish the job. I am not suggesting to use the font in my earlier mockup but would like to try Telex together with the darker text to see how that fits. It's too late for me to try that experiment at this time so maybe tomorrow. My two cents, Gunnar On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. > > A simple change: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8 > > Thanks, > > Gunnar > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Option 4!! >> >> Trina >> >> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would >> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out >> and I'm not fond of it overall... >> >> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at >> all.... >> >> Thanks Ken! >> >> -Carol P. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> Email: carol.pearson...@gmail.com >> Twitter: @CarolP222 >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. >>>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >>>> >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the >>>> right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional >>>> (perhaps also in lower case). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Weishiun >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), >>>> but with the placement of option 6. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That said, either one is fine. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 option 4 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 option 4 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked >>>> that. >>>> >>>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Option 4 >>>> >>>> >>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Option 6 >>>> >>>> >>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited >>>> field testing! >>>> >>>> Comments on 4 & 6? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, Ken >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >>>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we >>>> could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different >>>> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as >>>> well. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with >>>> another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on >>>> the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still >>>> not my favorite). >>>> >>>> >>>> Hans >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is >>>> a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, >>>> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon >>>> and post another version of that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. >>>> >>>> Cheers, Ken >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> +1 on dragon. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson < >>>> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it >>>> separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is >>>> always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the >>>> cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon >>>> carries. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> St.Ack >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Carol P. >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Email: carol.pearson...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @CarolP222 >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >>>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> +1 for Dragon. >>>> >>>> The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the >>>> writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and >>>> complicated with the cursive. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> +10 for dragon! Very cute! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else >>>> likes... I give it a +0 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements >>>> really well the yellow elephant! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> -clr >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s >>>> too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have >>>> that issue. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Apache Trafodion needs a logo. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite >>>> some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of >>>> Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo >>>> that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a >>>> simple cute dragon. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose >>>> that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dragon standalone - >>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing >>>> >>>> Trafodion name & dragon - >>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s >>>> look too similar. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thoughts? Should we vote on this? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, Ken >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Amanda Moran >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gunnar >>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* >>> >> >> > > > -- > Thanks, > > Gunnar > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* > -- Thanks, Gunnar *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
