I like 12. Atanu
____________________ Atanu Mishra On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ken: Can you make a variant of 13 with the same font as we use on the web > site; that is, Telex? > > Thanks, > > Gunnar > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:33 AM, Selva Govindarajan < > selva.govindara...@esgyn.com> wrote: > >> +1 for 8 and 13. Consider reducing the space between the fonts if >> possible in 8. >> >> >> >> Selva >> >> >> >> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much >> of the input that I received. >> >> >> >> One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for >> your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two >> for a run-off.) >> >> >> >> By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front >> runner option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named >> option 4g. >> >> >> >> Cheers, Ken >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming....@esgyn.cn> >> wrote: >> >> Thanks Gunnar, >> >> >> >> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular. >> >> I think we also think about whale before? >> >> >> >> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and >> real J >> >> >> >> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can >> draw a baby dragon? >> >> >> >> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as >> my favorite J >> >> >> >> My 2 cents. >> >> >> >> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to >> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this >> kind of design. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ming >> >> >> >> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com] >> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43 >> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Trying an attachment... >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming....@esgyn.cn> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, Gunnar, >> >> >> >> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I >> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people >> cannot access Google drive . >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ming >> >> >> >> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com] >> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31 >> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to >> propose the following draft as a candidate: >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc >> >> >> >> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for >> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the >> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's >> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google >> Fonts: Telex Regular. >> >> >> >> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well: >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm >> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Gunnar >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson < >> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and >> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion >> fits into the puzzle ;-) . >> >> >> >> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be >> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the >> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our >> traffic comes from. >> >> >> >> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday? >> >> >> >> -Carol P. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Email: carol.pearson...@gmail.com >> >> Twitter: @CarolP222 >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy < >> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are >> serious. >> >> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the >> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will. >> >> Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name. >> >> >> >> Venkat >> >> >> >> *From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper < >> tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> It seems we might need multiple votes: >> >> - One color or multiple colors? >> >> - Thin font or thick font? >> >> - One font or two fonts? >> >> - Apache or not… >> >> >> >> What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J >> >> -clr >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper < >> tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> -1 all same color. >> >> >> >> I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to >> remove Apache .... But I still like it the way it is >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >> But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to >> read about it? >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >> It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as >> compared to those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet. I >> feel that it adds quite a bit of value to Trafodion. >> >> >> >> Rohit >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> >> Date: 02/12/2016 8:34 AM (GMT-06:00) >> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> >> Cc: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >> >> I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the >> dragon and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached. >> >> >> >> I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the >> word APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK). >> >> >> >> With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the >> "power by Apache" logo, see URL here >> <http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/>, without the duplication >> of "Apache". >> >> >> >> It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus. >> >> >> >> Thanks --Qifan >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >> -1 >> >> >> >> Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist. >> >> >> >> Rohit >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >> Date: 02/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00) >> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. >> >> >> >> A simple change: >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8 >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Gunnar >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Option 4!! >> >> >> >> Trina >> >> >> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would >> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out >> and I'm not fond of it overall... >> >> >> >> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at >> all.... >> >> >> >> Thanks Ken! >> >> >> >> -Carol P. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Email: carol.pearson...@gmail.com >> >> Twitter: @CarolP222 >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. >> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >> >> >> >> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >> >> >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, >> not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional >> (perhaps also in lower case). >> >> >> >> Weishiun >> >> >> >> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but >> with the placement of option 6. >> >> >> >> That said, either one is fine. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 option 4 >> >> >> >> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 option 4 >> >> >> >> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. >> >> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. >> >> >> >> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. >> >> >> >> Option 4 >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing >> >> >> >> Option 6 >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing >> >> >> >> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited >> field testing! >> >> Comments on 4 & 6? >> >> >> >> Cheers, Ken >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we >> could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different >> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as >> well. >> >> >> >> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >> >> >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another >> somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the >> trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my >> favorite). >> >> >> Hans >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a >> vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, >> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. >> >> >> >> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and >> post another version of that. >> >> >> >> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. >> >> Cheers, Ken >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote: >> >> +1 on dragon. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson < >> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! >> >> >> >> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it >> separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? >> >> >> >> >> >> Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is >> always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the >> cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon >> carries. >> >> >> >> St.Ack >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Carol P. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Email: carol.pearson...@gmail.com >> >> Twitter: @CarolP222 >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >> +1 for Dragon. >> >> The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the >> writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and >> complicated with the cursive. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +10 for dragon! Very cute! >> >> >> >> Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else >> likes... I give it a +0 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> >> wrote: >> >> Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements >> really well the yellow elephant! >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> -clr >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s >> too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have >> that issue. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Apache Trafodion needs a logo. >> >> >> >> I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some >> time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of >> Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo >> that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a >> simple cute dragon. >> >> >> >> I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that >> we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. >> >> >> >> Dragon standalone - >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing >> >> Trafodion name & dragon - >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing >> >> >> >> I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s >> look too similar. >> >> >> >> Thoughts? Should we vote on this? >> >> >> >> Cheers, Ken >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Amanda Moran >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Gunnar >> >> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Gunnar >> >> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, --Qifan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, --Qifan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Gunnar >> >> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Gunnar >> >> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* >> >> >> > > > > -- > Thanks, > > Gunnar > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* >
