I dunno. I keep casting about for possible explanations, but my current rusty-ness with the Velocity codebase (haven't hacked on it much in a couple years) is hampering me. At this point, all i can say is that i'm not sure where the cached nodes are from, but i suspect either your few ClasspathResourceLoader templates (probably unlikely to hit 5mil tokens unless they're huge) or evaluated macros (but i'm not sure why they're being cached).
In any case, the proper fix would be resolving https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-797 (the way it should have been done in the first place) but my work schedule makes it unlikely i'll get to it anytime soon. Sigh. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Bradley Wagner <bradley.wag...@hannonhill.com> wrote: > Whoops, was misreading the API. It's actually that tempTemplateName > variable. > > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Bradley Wagner > <bradley.wag...@hannonhill.com> wrote: >> >> A StringWriter: >> >> String template = ... the string containing the dynamic template to >> generate ... >> // Get a template as stream. >> StringWriter writer = new StringWriter(); >> StringReader reader = new StringReader(template); >> // create a temporary template name >> String tempTemplateName = "velocityTransform-" + >> System.currentTimeMillis(); >> >> // ask Velocity to evaluate it. >> VelocityEngine engine = getEngine(); >> boolean success = engine.evaluate(context, writer, tempTemplateName, >> reader); >> >> if (!success) >> { >> LOG.debug("Velocity could not evaluate template with content: \n" + >> template); >> return null; >> } >> LOG.debug("Velocity successfully evaluted template with content: \n" + >> template); >> String strResult = writer.getBuffer().toString(); >> return strResult; >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Nathan Bubna <nbu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> What do you use for logTag (template name) when you are using evaluate()? >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Bradley Wagner >>> <bradley.wag...@hannonhill.com> wrote: >>> > Doing both. In the other case we're using a classpath resource loader >>> > to >>> > evaluate templates like this: >>> > >>> > VelocityContext = ... a context that we're building each time ... >>> > VelocityEngine engine = ... our single engine ... >>> > Template template = engine.getTemplate(templatePath); >>> > StringWriter writer = new StringWriter(); >>> > template.merge(context, writer); >>> > >>> > However, we only have 7 of those static templates in our whole system. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Nathan Bubna <nbu...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> And you're sure you're only using VelocityEngine.evaluate? Not >>> >> loading templates through the resource loader? Or are you doing both? >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Bradley Wagner >>> >> <bradley.wag...@hannonhill.com> wrote: >>> >> > Nathan, >>> >> > >>> >> > Tokens are referenced by >>> >> > org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTReference which seem to >>> >> > be >>> >> > referenced by arrays of >>> >> > org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.Nodes. >>> >> > Most >>> >> > of the classes referencing these things are AST classes in the >>> >> > org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node package. >>> >> > >>> >> > Here's our properties file: >>> >> > >>> >> > runtime.log.logsystem.class = >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > org.apache.velocity.runtime.log.Log4JLogChute,org.apache.velocity.runtime.log.AvalonLogSystem >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > runtime.log.logsystem.log4j.logger=com.hannonhill.cascade.velocity.VelocityEngine >>> >> > >>> >> > runtime.log.error.stacktrace = false >>> >> > runtime.log.warn.stacktrace = false >>> >> > runtime.log.info.stacktrace = false >>> >> > runtime.log.invalid.reference = true >>> >> > >>> >> > input.encoding=UTF-8 >>> >> > output.encoding=UTF-8 >>> >> > >>> >> > directive.foreach.counter.name = velocityCount >>> >> > directive.foreach.counter.initial.value = 1 >>> >> > >>> >> > resource.loader = class >>> >> > >>> >> > class.resource.loader.description = Velocity Classpath Resource >>> >> > Loader >>> >> > class.resource.loader.class = >>> >> > org.apache.velocity.runtime.resource.loader.ClasspathResourceLoader >>> >> > >>> >> > velocimacro.permissions.allow.inline.local.scope = true >>> >> > >>> >> > Thanks! >>> >> > Bradley >>> >> > >>> >> > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Nathan Bubna <nbu...@gmail.com> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Bradley Wagner >>> >> >> <bradley.wag...@hannonhill.com> wrote: >>> >> >> > Thanks for the input. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > What we're seeing is that Velocity seems to be holding on to a >>> >> >> > lot >>> >> >> > of org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.Token objects (around 5 >>> >> >> > million). >>> >> >> > We >>> >> >> > allow people to write arbitrary Velocity templates in our system >>> >> >> > and >>> >> >> > are >>> >> >> > evaluating them with: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > VelocityEngine.evaluate(Context context, Writer writer, String >>> >> >> > logTag, >>> >> >> > Reader reader) >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > I was under the impression that Templates evaluated this way are >>> >> >> > inherently >>> >> >> > not cacheable. Is that the case? If that's not true, is there a >>> >> >> > way >>> >> >> > to >>> >> >> > control the cache Velocity is using for these? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> me too. just out of curiosity, what properties are you using for >>> >> >> configuration? and can you tell any more about what class is >>> >> >> holding >>> >> >> onto those Tokens? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Alex Fedotov <a...@kayak.com> >>> >> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> I think that Velocity has one global hash table for macros from >>> >> >> >> the >>> >> >> >> *.vm >>> >> >> >> libraries and that is more or less static for the life time of >>> >> >> >> the >>> >> >> >> Velocity >>> >> >> >> engine. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I wish there there was a mechanism to control the list of the >>> >> >> >> *.vm >>> >> >> >> files >>> >> >> >> and their order of lookup for each individual merge (thread). >>> >> >> >> This >>> >> >> >> would >>> >> >> >> facilitate macro overloads based on the context. >>> >> >> >> Unfortunately this feature is not available. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I think the 1.7 behavior is (more or less): >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> When template reference is found (i.e. #parse("x")) it is >>> >> >> >> looked-up >>> >> >> >> in >>> >> >> >> the >>> >> >> >> resource cache and if found there (with all the expiration >>> >> >> >> checks, >>> >> >> >> etc.) >>> >> >> >> the parsed AST tree is used. >>> >> >> >> If not found the template is loaded from the file, actually >>> >> >> >> parsed >>> >> >> >> and >>> >> >> >> put >>> >> >> >> into the cache. During the actual parsing process the macros >>> >> >> >> that >>> >> >> >> are >>> >> >> >> defined in the template are put into the macro manager cache >>> >> >> >> which >>> >> >> >> is >>> >> >> >> organized as: >>> >> >> >> "defining template name (name space)" => "macro name" => AST >>> >> >> >> macro >>> >> >> >> code >>> >> >> >> The AST is then rendered in the current context running #parse. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> When the time comes to call a macro there is a lookup process >>> >> >> >> which >>> >> >> >> can >>> >> >> >> be >>> >> >> >> influenced by some props, but the most general case is: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> 1. Lookup in the global *.vm files, if found use that. >>> >> >> >> 2. Lookup in the same "name space" that calls the macro, if >>> >> >> >> found >>> >> >> >> use >>> >> >> >> that. >>> >> >> >> 3. Going back through the "list" of the #parse-d templates >>> >> >> >> lookup in >>> >> >> >> each >>> >> >> >> name space on the stack. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> The stack can be actually very long too, for example >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> #foreach($templ in [1..5]) >>> >> >> >> #parse("${templ}.vtl") >>> >> >> >> #end >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> #mymacro() >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> The lookup list here would contain: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> 1.vtl, 2.vtl, 3.vtl, 4.vtl, 5.vtl >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> This is true even for cases where the name is the same: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> #foreach($item in [1..5]) >>> >> >> >> #parse('item.vtl') >>> >> >> >> #end >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> The lookup list here would contain: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> item.vtl, item.vtl, item.vtl, item.vtl, item.vtl >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> There is no attempt to optimize the lookup list and collapse the >>> >> >> >> duplicates. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Unfortunately 1.7 also had some nasty concurrency bugs there >>> >> >> >> that >>> >> >> >> had >>> >> >> >> to do >>> >> >> >> with clearing the name space of all the macros and repopulating >>> >> >> >> it >>> >> >> >> again on >>> >> >> >> each parse which did not work at all with multiple threads. >>> >> >> >> One thread could clear the name space while another was doing a >>> >> >> >> lookup, >>> >> >> >> etc. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I think there was an effort to redesign that part in 2.0, but I >>> >> >> >> have >>> >> >> >> not >>> >> >> >> looked at that yet. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Alex >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Bradley Wagner < >>> >> >> >> bradley.wag...@hannonhill.com> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Hi, >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > We recently made some changes to our software to use just a >>> >> >> >> > single >>> >> >> >> > VelocityEngine as per recommendations on this group. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > We ran into an issue where macros were all of the sudden being >>> >> >> >> > shared >>> >> >> >> > across template renders because we had not >>> >> >> >> > specified: velocimacro.permissions.allow.inline.local.scope = >>> >> >> >> > true. >>> >> >> >> > However, we also had not ever turned on caching in our props >>> >> >> >> > file >>> >> >> >> > with: class.resource.loader.cache = true. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > Does this mean that macros are cached separately from whatever >>> >> >> >> > is >>> >> >> >> > being >>> >> >> >> > cached in the class.resource.loader.cache cache? Is there any >>> >> >> >> > way >>> >> >> >> > to >>> >> >> >> > control that caching or is just using this property the >>> >> >> >> > way: velocimacro.permissions.allow.inline.local.scope = true >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > One side effect of our recent changes is that the app seems to >>> >> >> >> > have >>> >> >> >> > an >>> >> >> >> > increased mem footprint. We're not *sure* it can be attributed >>> >> >> >> > to >>> >> >> >> velocity >>> >> >> >> > but I was trying to see what kinds of things Velocity could be >>> >> >> >> > hanging on >>> >> >> >> > to and how much memory they might be taking up. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > Thanks! >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@velocity.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@velocity.apache.org