Hi Oliver 

In that case I'd suggest when speaking with a vendor you ask them to provide 
contacts of organisations willing to discuss the benefits they've had with you, 
via other channels.

Cheers
Mike

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> On 25 Aug 2017, at 10:44, Oliver B. Fischer <o.b.fisc...@swe-blog.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> you are right. We are aware of pros and cons you mentioned. The actual reason 
> for asking here on the list is/was to find people who know if it is worth to 
> pay for JBoss AMQ or not. Such a decision is not easy in our environment 
> because of the consequences.
> 
> But thanks a lot for your answer
> 
> Oliver
> 
> 
>> Am 24.08.17 um 23:28 schrieb Michael André Pearce:
>> Hi Oliver,
>> 
>> Rather than answer this for a specific vendor as Apache spaces are meant to 
>> be vendor neutral e.g. shouldn't be pushing /selling their products. You 
>> will find though on activemq site a list of known vendors providing such 
>> services.
>> 
>> This is the same as probably most Apache open source products where 
>> commercial vendors sell support. Good other examples are the Apache Hadoop 
>> projects with Hadoop vendors, Apache Kafka and Apache Ignite all having 
>> vendors backing those projects.
>> 
>> In general the benefits of Apache Open Source is that you can use the 
>> product un-restricted and at any scale.
>> Like wise most Apache projects are very active with most critical issues 
>> being patched quite quickly.
>> 
>> User forums are great places to ask questions or discuss issues, where other 
>> users or the devs on the projects help each other.
>> 
>> You of course can always fork and self patch as well. Some large companies 
>> go this route as well as the other end of the scale with tech start ups.
>> 
>> The benefits of vendors that provide support for open source project, is 
>> that typically they will have committers on the project or developers who 
>> are at least very active, this means they know the code and in cases of 
>> critical issue obviously you have them to call upon with commercial SLAs.
>> 
>> Like wise typically vendors will fork the project and bundle a project with 
>> some additional extras or bundle a couple of projects together as a single 
>> product package.
>> 
>> Another part is obviously they tend to provide long term support for 
>> particular versions, if required.
>> 
>> To understand further what specific vendors offer obviously it's best to 
>> visit their websites or contact them direct.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Aug 2017, at 21:46, Oliver B. Fischer <o.b.fisc...@swe-blog.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> my colleagues and I are going to build a new distributed system based on 
>>> Apache Artemis.
>>> 
>>> Now we have to answer the question to ourselves if we should go for JBoss 
>>> AMQ with support contract or should we use Apache Artemis directly.
>>> 
>>> Is there a good reason to choose JBoss AMQ?
>>> 
>>> Would be nice to have your opinions on this.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Oliver
>>> 
>>> 
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