Agreed - I think it's best to jump into the deep end and start
swimming with a good book as a life preserver. I definitely don't
think that a JEE server is the right pool, though...it's more like
jumping into a pool of lava. :) Best to stick with Spring and
Struts (or Spring MVC, which I prefer) IMO.
Coleman
On Oct 1, 2007, at 2:02 PM, John Kwon wrote:
This brings up what I call the classic "where do I start with J2EE'
problem.
I've hired more than one person who can, by the book, pass a test
about servlets, and maybe even write one.
But show them a framework, and they're immediately lost.
It's necessary to know some fundamentals - but in some cases, it's
best to know just enough to understand where a framework is taking
you - you don't have to know how to write Spring to use it (for
instance).
On 10/1/07, John Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Meisam,
I would recommend that you start with the JSP and servlet tutorials
rather than jumping right into the deep end. I admire that you have
taken such a plunge; there is so much to learn here that you head
will soon be spinning (if it's not already). Appfuse uses a number
of frameworks that are non-trivial for the beginning Java developer.
I'd recommend that you skip the JEE stuff altogether, honestly.
Appfuse stays away from the overhead of requiring a full JEE app
server and I think you'll find that most developers who have been
exposed to open source Java frameworks would agree that's the best
strategy for a beginner. If you find you do need to go the JEE
route, none of the experience you gain by using Appfuse will have
gone to waste; JEE is moving in the direction of the lighter, better,
faster frameworks.
You'd do well to pick up a few books, namely Spring in Action, Java
Persistence with Hibernate, anything written by Rod Johnson, and
"Better Builds With Maven 2." The Maven book is a free download. You
will find that your journey is initially like learning a foreign
language by moving to a foreign country. Don't give up and one day
you'll realize that you just "get it" and you aren't re-reading every
page again and again.
Good luck,
Coleman
On Oct 1, 2007, at 12:43 PM, meisam4910 wrote:
>
> thank you and im fan of this website, its very good, have a look
dude;
> www.roseindia.net
>
>
> Mike Horwitz wrote:
>>
>> I am a fan of the Sun tutorials. They are pretty comprehensive and
>> should
>> get you going reasonably quickly:
>> http://java.sun.com/javaee/reference/tutorials/ (pick the Java EE
>> version
>> appropriate for you).
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>> On 10/1/07, meisam4910 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> guys, can anybody suggest a powerful and comprehensive tutorial
>>> on J2EE
>>> kick
>>> start ? for example now when i want to start a project i see many
>>> things
>>> are
>>> inside the project such as, beans, xml files, sources,... i want
>>> to know
>>> the
>>> relationships between these elements, and how they communicate
>>> with each
>>> other ? i have read a lot about the J2EE, but still need to
>>> understand
>>> the
>>> structure of an web application directory, a common structure and
>>> essential
>>> things inside the directory. thank you.
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