You should never feel bad about asking questions!!! Questions are
encouraged here and even uncertain answers are encouraged. One of
the
great things about AppFuse is the willingness of the community to
help
each other out. If you have any trouble understanding something
please
ask. Anyone who reads this list and who has already figured out that
problem will try to help.
I suggest you just take your time [if you can]. Follow the tutorials
closely and try to understand why things work as you go along. If
you go
through the tutorial a few times and read the books/documentation
that
have been recommended in this thread you should start to get it
even if it
takes a little while.
Nathan
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From: "meisam4910" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 1:17:36 PM (GMT-0800) America/
Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: [appfuse-user] J2EE fundumentals
Dear coleman
I do take your advice serious but the thing is that i need to
learn JEE as
well, im not that far away from java and web applications, i have
done a
small jdbc applications for myself, and at least im familiar with
some
terms, but still have lot of problems with JSTL and tag libs which
i found
them very difficult to learn and scary to go for :( .anyways the
reason i
came after java web based frameworks was that i was learning
little by
little about web applications and jdbc connections, one day i was
working
at
home, suddenly i saw an article (why re-inventing the wheel ?) it
sounded
very nice to me, it was about frameworks and the ready
applications, i
found
myself stupid to build the entire web application from the scratch, i
started to learn about the frameworks although it was so early to
learn
them, and i suppose it is still too early. fortunately people really
helped
me a lot here and in other frameworks forums, during last week i
learned a
lot of stuff, the problem is that i need to continue building my web
application(Document management system), and i can`t ignore the
sweetness
and functionalities of the frameworks and JEE, thats why im
disturbing
people here a lot with a lot of questions and beginners questions
(let me
thank matt to be patient enough), and i want to build the application
based
on struts with eclipse IDE and help of appfuse. I will have a lot of
questions and i know this forum is not suitable for me as a
beginner and
i
apologize again for asking lot of beginners questions step b step
during
my
learning,i really dun like the situation, i would like to go for JSP,
servlets, then J2EE ,...first but i kind of like the appfuse and its
functionlities and also struts, i really want to learn it and i know
achieving this sounds very difficult by now.
John Coleman-5 wrote:
Meisam,
I would recommend that you start with the JSP and servlet tutorials
rather than jumping right into the deep end. I admire that you have
taken such a plunge; there is so much to learn here that you head
will soon be spinning (if it's not already). Appfuse uses a number
of frameworks that are non-trivial for the beginning Java developer.
I'd recommend that you skip the JEE stuff altogether, honestly.
Appfuse stays away from the overhead of requiring a full JEE app
server and I think you'll find that most developers who have been
exposed to open source Java frameworks would agree that's the best
strategy for a beginner. If you find you do need to go the JEE
route, none of the experience you gain by using Appfuse will have
gone to waste; JEE is moving in the direction of the lighter,
better,
faster frameworks.
You'd do well to pick up a few books, namely Spring in Action, Java
Persistence with Hibernate, anything written by Rod Johnson, and
"Better Builds With Maven 2." The Maven book is a free download.
You
will find that your journey is initially like learning a foreign
language by moving to a foreign country. Don't give up and one day
you'll realize that you just "get it" and you aren't re-reading
every
page again and again.
Good luck,
Coleman
On Oct 1, 2007, at 12:43 PM, meisam4910 wrote:
thank you and im fan of this website, its very good, have a look
dude;
www.roseindia.net
Mike Horwitz wrote:
I am a fan of the Sun tutorials. They are pretty comprehensive and
should
get you going reasonably quickly:
http://java.sun.com/javaee/reference/tutorials/ (pick the Java EE
version
appropriate for you).
Mike.
On 10/1/07, meisam4910 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
guys, can anybody suggest a powerful and comprehensive tutorial
on J2EE
kick
start ? for example now when i want to start a project i see many
things
are
inside the project such as, beans, xml files, sources,... i want
to know
the
relationships between these elements, and how they communicate
with each
other ? i have read a lot about the J2EE, but still need to
understand
the
structure of an web application directory, a common structure and
essential
things inside the directory. thank you.
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