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Dear Martha (and other list members),
 
I very much enjoyed reading this and thought it explained many of the concepts rather well.  It's clear the point about the DB and Document GUIs, and that makes sense.  I have some comments and questions on the proposal.
 
First, I take it from the design docs that we propose, in phase one, to only allow access to OoBib from within OoWriter.  I would like to urge that we rethink that decision and somehow allow the database GUI to be opened standalone.  I have two main reasons for this: 
    1) I personally very often work with the database of my thesis notes without any reference document in mind, and it wouldn't make sense to me to have to open a document (which I won't use) to get access to those notes.  Also because I'm paranoid about my notes, I'd like to be SURE they will be there for me if I have to use another word-processor.  I really don't like the feeling of lock-in this proposal gives me. 
    2) EndNote and the other bibliographic programs are rather expensive - about �70 now ($135) student prices at my institution.  One of my reasons for wanting to help out on this project is to provide an alternative in terms of price - but many people can't switch word processors because of institutional reasons (like, we are barred from installing programs), so it would be nice to be able to give them something they can use.  I bet the IS people would consider an alternate bib program before they would switch from Word.  Especially if we can add an IMPORT function, which I didn't see anywhere.
 
Second, in the Statements of Prupose (p7), we have "Manage retrieved result sets and BibDBs containing information items."  I didn't find "Manage" as a key term that was defined, and I would like to know what "managing" entails.  Maybe this is clear to others, I just didn't know.
 
In the document GUI "style" element (p9), we say "A style must be selected before the first insertion is made."  I think we should have a default style, and the user should then be able to change the style in the document -- in other words, styles shouldn't be fixed for a particular document.  I assume this is somewhere, but I didn't read it and that's quite important to me.
 
Regarding the "private information" debate (p13): I don't like the idea somehow of their being a separate file, and the files having to be in the same directory, and all this stuff.  I agree with Bruce (I think it was) that I have lots of stuff I would like to remain private (what I think of my supervisor's writing, for example).  I would rather see it like this, though:  I think the BibDB should contain ALL the information, and that there should be a default setting about what subset is included as the "travelling library" (to borrow an EndNote term) with the document.  The travelling library contents should be able to be changed by the author of the document, and the travelling library ought to be able to be exported into a proper BibDB by the reader of the document.  Then we don't have two documents needing to be in the same place at the same time, or any of that stuff: we just have a proper-sized subset that travels with the document and is under the original document author's control.  Is that a possible solution?
 
BibDB (p14) - "a major issues is whether a document can contain insertions from more than one BibDB" Yes, please!!!!  I have a range of databases more or less categorised by subject (sort of ), and I would like to be able to access them all, not to have to go through some cumbersome cut-and-paste process to be able to insert a reference I already have.
 
Regarding indexes (p15) "Will OOoBib queries allow the use of any type of controlled vocabular(ies?), such as LCSH or MeSH?"  Can we arrange it so that we have a default type of search, but that we can make some type of configurable search interface so that particular sources can have different types of controlled or uncontrolled searches?  For example, we could define a generic "bibliographic database" search which included author, title, date, and subject, but eliminate subject from databases that don't work that way?  This would allow people with specialised databases - let's say chemical engineers - to put in a field for chemical formulae in their specialised molecule database (don't laugh, I read a lot about search engines as that's my topic of PhD research, and there are indeed such databases).  This would also allow for a more modular way of extending the database.
 
Thanks Martha for an excellent document.
 
Elizabeth
 
 

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