On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Bruno Borges <bruno.bor...@gmail.com> wrote: > IMHO, > > BPEL is about Business Process, and Camel is about Message Processing, > although both can be used for the same thing (business or message). > > But what about human tasks in the middle? Persistence is important because > your process may not be atomic. > So if you go for Camel or any other product (MuleESB comes to mind), you > will have to implement all these business process control and persistence > on your own. >
Yes Camel and BPEL is not the same. This is also what Kai says in his great presentation. There was a link in one of the first posts. However in my past many jobs I have seem people not being aware of this, and thinking BPEL is their one-stop magic solution for all the integration related issues. > jm2c > > *Bruno Borges* > (11) 99564-9058 > *www.brunoborges.com* > > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Omar Atia <omar.a...@its.ws> wrote: > >> Adding to this BPEL is slow in performance for heavy load activities. >> >> Camel is the best solution you go for , even spring DSL configuration you >> can do the same. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Henryk Konsek [mailto:hekon...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 4:12 PM >> To: users@camel.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Camel vs BPEL >> >> > Hi, can anyone give some really good convincing stuff that why should >> > we use camel over BPEL? >> >> Call me stupid, but BPEL is too complex for me. :) >> >> If I want to orchestrate two WS endpoints and perform some transformation >> on the data, I would like to express this with a few lines of DSL. >> >> I'm technical guy and one of the things I'm paid for is to estimate the >> cost of deploying given technical solution. In my opinion investing into >> the BPEL is expensive. BPEL is complicated and inflexible. Only abusive >> volume of legacy BPEL code will convince me to suggest somebody to stick to >> the BPEL. >> >> I don't see any value in the BPEL complexity. >> >> -- >> Henryk Konsek >> http://henryk-konsek.blogspot.com >> -- Claus Ibsen ----------------- FuseSource Email: cib...@fusesource.com Web: http://fusesource.com Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews Blog: http://davsclaus.com Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
