Hi James (and all others involved creating this product)! Congrats for this product. It looks awesome (without having the time to go into the details until now). I wish you success with it.
At present, I think the best is to let the project grow up at GitHub and see whether it will get a solid user basis (I bet it will). If it has success and you want donate to Apache, I think a new TLP is the best place (after going through the incubator), because it is so generic (supports different runtime environments, supports different projects, ...). If I understand it correct, Hawtio is shipt by default with a Camel plugin, right? This means if we want to improve this plugin, we have to submit a patch/pull request (or forge it), right? Which features you figured out are still missing? By the way, I couldn't install it into Karaf 2.3.0. I followed your instructions by editing org.ops4j.pax.url.mvn.cfg (shouldn't be the url https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots instead of https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots=sonatype.snapshot.repo?). I got the following output: Christian-Muellers-MacBook-Pro:bin cmueller$ ./karaf clean Picked up JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS: -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 __ __ ____ / //_/____ __________ _/ __/ / ,< / __ `/ ___/ __ `/ /_ / /| |/ /_/ / / / /_/ / __/ /_/ |_|\__,_/_/ \__,_/_/ Apache Karaf (2.3.0) Hit '<tab>' for a list of available commands and '[cmd] --help' for help on a specific command. Hit '<ctrl-d>' or 'osgi:shutdown' to shutdown Karaf. karaf@root> features:install war karaf@root> install mvn:io.hawt/hawtio-web/1.0-SNAPSHOT/war Bundle IDs: Error executing command: Error installing bundles: Unable to install bundle mvn:io.hawt/hawtio-web/1.0-SNAPSHOT/war Best, Christian On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:59 AM, James Strachan <james.strac...@gmail.com>wrote: > For the impatient just look here :) http://hawt.io/ > > Background > ========== > We've had numerous consoles all over the place for some time in > various projects like Felix, Karaf, ActiveMQ, Camel, Tomcat, Fuse > Fabric to name but a few. Many of them quite heavy weight requiring a > custom web app to be deployed (which often is quite large); none > particularly working together. > > We've been working on Fuse Fabric and its management console to > provide a more consolidated view of a cluster of Apache integration & > middleware technologies. Increasingly we're seeing our users and > customers using different combinations of technologies in different > containers (e.g. Tomcat + ActiveMQ or Karaf + Camel or Fuse Fabric + > Karaf + ActiveMQ + Camel or whatever). > > So for a few months a few of us have been working on trying to make > the various web consoles for things like Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, > Felix/Karaf/OSGi & Fuse Fabric (long with more generic things like JMX > & OSGi) available as lightweight HTML5 plugins so they can be mixed > and matched together to suite any container and combination of > technologies that folks deploy in a JVM. > > > hawtio > ===== > The result so far is hawtio: http://hawt.io/ > > You can deploy it as a WAR in any JVM (or feature in karaf) and it > provides a UI console for whatever it finds in the JVM. So it works > with Tomcat / Jetty / Karaf / JBoss / Fuse Fabric; and has plugins for > JMX, OSGi, ActiveMQ, Camel & Fuse Fabric so far with others on the > way. > > The nice thing is its pretty small (about 1Mb WAR containing all the > server side code, HTML, JS, images, CSS etc). The only real server > side component is jolokia which is a small (about 300K) REST connector > for JMX (which is awesome BTW!) - the rest is static content (which > could be served from anywhere so doesn't need to be deployed in each > JVM). > > Its based around a plugin architecture: > http://hawt.io/developers/plugins.html > > so its easy to add new plugins for any kind of technology. A plugin is > pretty much anything that runs in a browser. > > The nice thing is hawtio can discover UI plugins at runtime by > examining the contents of the JVM or querying REST endpoints; so the > UI can update in real time as you deploy new things into a JVM! > > > hawtio, the hawt camel rider > ====================== > A quick summary of the current features for camel folks: > > * If you have any camel contexts running in a JVM when hawtio starts > up it adds an Integration tab which shows all the camel contexts > running. > > * You can start/stop/suspend/resume the context and its routes; then > look at all the metrics for routes/endpoints/processors. The Charts > tab lets you visualise the real time metrics. > > * You can create new endpoints; browse endpoints which are browsable & > send messages to endpoints (with syntax editing support for JSON / XML > / YAML / properties) > > * You can visualise all the camel routes or a specific camel route for > a context in the Diagram tab and see real time metrics of how many > messages are passing through each step on the diagram. e.g. > > https://raw.github.com/hawtio/hawtio/master/website/src/images/screenshots/camelRoute.png > > * Clicking on a Route allows you to Trace it; when tracing if you send > a message into a route then it captures a copy of the message at each > point through the route. So you can step through (scroll/click through > the table) a route and see the message contents and how the message > flows through the EIPs - highlighting where on the diagram each > message is. This is very handy for figuring out why your route doesn't > work :) Spot where the heading disappears! Or see why the CBR doesn't > go where you expected. > > In general most of the runtime features of the open source Fuse IDE > eclipse tooling are now supported in the camel hawtio plugin; so > available in a web browser. > > > Summary > ======= > So if you're vaguely interested in web consoles for Apache Camel I > urge you to give it a try. We love contributions and feedback! > http://hawt.io/contributing/index.html > > or feel free to raise new issues for how to improve the camel plugin: > > https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/issues?labels=camel&page=1&sort=updated&state=open > > or if you've an itch for a new kind of plugin please dive in! We > should be able to expose existing web apps/consoles as links inside > hawtio too BTW. > > Feedback appreciated! Its hawt, but stay cool! ;) > > -- > James > ------- > Red Hat > > Email: jstra...@redhat.com > Web: http://fusesource.com > Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews > Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source Integration > --
