Thanks, Shane!  We appreciate your guidance.

James

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> (Please note the mix of mailing lists)
>
> The most important thing is that Apache product brands are referred to by
> their full name - i.e. Apache Camel - in at least both the first and most
> prominent places in a document.  That means the title (either graphically in
> the display, or the window title in a PDF viewer, whatever) should include
> "Apache Camel" wherever practical.
>
> Beyond that, this looks like a great poster; I wasn't even aware of how many
> different direct integration points are already out there!
>
> Since this is clearly educational materials, a cheatsheet, or additional
> documentation about Apache Camel and related software that goes above and
> beyond what the camel.apache.org website provides as normal documentation,
> it's perfectly appropriate to include a footer or other "Created by"
> attribution for whoever does the work to create this.  So the logo in the
> footer is fine, especially because it's not directly with the Camel name or
> logo.  It's certainly appropriate for your company to get credit for the
> design!
>
> As a volunteer-run public charity that produces software for the public
> good, we need to ensure that our trademarks are respected, especially by
> software vendors of all stripes.  However outside individuals and companies
> producing extra educational materials about Apache software - like training,
> books, and cool API docs like this - can help users to find out about and
> make use of Apache software, which is a benefit to everyone.  As long as our
> brands are respected, we definitely appreciate the work people do like this.
>
> Thanks,
> - Shane Curcuru
>   VP, Brand Management
>
>
>
>
> On 10/4/13 5:00 PM, Christian Müller wrote:
>>
>> Hi Robert!
>>
>> Thanks for your good work. We appreciate it. It looks really cool and I
>> think this poster provides a good overview which components do we have
>> in each particular area.
>>
>> As outlined in [1] and mentioned by James, you should
>> - refer to "The Apache Camel Components Poster" instead of "The Camel
>> Components Poster"
>>
>> Thanks for your cooperation and willing to update the poster.
>>
>> I don't think it's an issue to have the "GLIESIAN, LLC." whatermark and
>> footer, but prefer to have the trademarks ok. Therefore, I also put
>> trademarks@ in CC to request their permission that you can publish/sell
>> this poster [2] after the mentioned update.
>>
>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#guidelines
>> [2] http://gliesian.com/camel/TheCamelComponentPosterWithWatermark.pdf
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Christian Müller
>> V.P. Apache Camel
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:22 AM, gliesian <glies...@yahoo.com
>> <mailto:glies...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi James,
>>
>>     I looked at the cover of the "Camel in Action" book and "Apache" is
>> not
>>     mentioned anywhere:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Camel-Action-Claus-Ibsen/dp/1935182366/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380838736&sr=8-1&keywords=camel+in+action
>>
>>     So, I figured that the approach I took with the title of the poster
>> was
>>     okay, "The Camel Components Poster".
>>
>>     I do mention Apache in a few places on the poster...
>>     (1) Bottom left: Camel Components (Apache and External)
>>     (2) Bottom right: http://camel.apache.org/components.html
>>     (3) In some of the descriptions: e.g. Apache ServiceMix.
>>
>>     I can update the poster anyway that is appropriate, please just let
>>     me know
>>     exactly what to do, and I will do it.
>>
>>     Sincerely,
>>     Robert Liguori
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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