OK - I’ve created an new JIRA issue describing what I’m seeing. 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-9570 
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-9570>

 I’ll extract some samples from my projects and add them to the ticket shortly.


> On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:05 AM, Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> I would use a new issue that just explains what happens without trying to
> interpret. We do not yet know what really happens but I hope we can find
> out.
> 
> Christian
> 
> 2016-02-03 3:40 GMT+01:00 Quinn Stevenson <qu...@pronoia-solutions.com>:
> 
>> I would expect the CamelContext to keep trying to run as well, but I
>> expected it to hit the call to the OSGi service, block, and then timeout
>> and throw a ServiceUnavailableException.  But what I’m seeing is the call
>> to the OSGi service is completing (it’s basically and echo service right
>> now), and continues to complete.  My test route is driven by a timer, and
>> it will continue to log calls to the OSGi service even when the bundle
>> providing the service has been stopped.
>> 
>> I checked and made sure I didn’t have any other bundles providing the
>> service.
>> 
>> The really strange part to me is just injecting what should be the service
>> proxy into the RouteBuilder results in a route that isn’t using Blueprint
>> service proxies.  I’ve changed the route to use the bean component, which
>> works as I’d expect as long as I don’t inject the bean into the route
>> builder.
>> 
>> I was going to put some samples in the JIRA issue that was created for
>> this - is that still the right place?  Or do we need a different JIRA issue?
>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 02.02.2016 23:08, Quinn Stevenson wrote:
>>>> Christian -
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t know about a class loader issue, but I do know when I run the
>> route configured as you have it below, I’m not getting a proxy to the
>> service.  I know this because if I stop the bundle containing the OSGi
>> service, the Camel context keeps running - I don’t get a
>> ServiceUnavailableException after the timeout.  In fact, it keeps using
>> whatever is injected into the RouteBuilder.
>>>> 
>>>> I think that’s where the class loader thing came from - it appear to be
>> using the implementation of the service directly - not via a Blueprint
>> proxy.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> It is normal that the camel context keeps running as blueprint uses
>> service damping. So the proxy should remain the same when the service goes
>> away or changes.
>>> I would expect the service call to block and return
>> ServiceUnavailableException after the blueprint service timeout though in
>> case there is no service.
>>> 
>>> Sounds quite strange.
>>> 
>>> Can you check in karaf using the service:list command that there is
>> really no Echo service running anymore?
>>> 
>>> Christian
>>> 
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>>> Christian Schneider
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>>> 
>>> Open Source Architect
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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