On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 10:53 PM Steve973 <steve...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Claus, you can see the module here: > https://github.com/Steve973/camel-spring-boot/tree/CAMEL-17061/components-starter/camel-springdoc-starter > > Please let me know if you have any concerns or questions, etc. >
This work looks good. > Thanks, > Steve > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 8:22 AM Steve973 <steve...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, Claus. Thanks -- I think that I need to disable it for this one. > > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 12:25 AM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> You can run the maven command with -e to display the stacktrace. It > >> may be that we can fix the NPE in this plugin, or we need to disable > >> it for this starter you create. > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 2:27 AM Steve973 <steve...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > That is what I have been trying to do, but this keeps happening: > >> > > >> > [ERROR] Failed to execute goal > >> > > >> org.apache.camel.springboot:camel-spring-boot-generator-maven-plugin:3.13.0-SNAPSHOT:prepare-spring-boot-starter > >> > (generate) on project camel-springdoc-starter: Unable to create starter: > >> > Unable to build project dependency tree: NullPointerException -> [Help > >> 1] > >> > > >> > It must be something trivial that I am overlooking, but I can't figure > >> it > >> > out! > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Steve > >> > > >> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 12:46 AM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hi > >> > > > >> > > You do not need to use the create-starter script as it is as you say > >> > > for when there is an existing camel component that it based upon. > >> > > You can create a new directory manually, thought you then need to add > >> > > it manually to the pom.xml file. > >> > > > >> > > But that can be later, at first you can create the directory manually, > >> > > and copy over that source I hacked together, and polish as needed. > >> > > Use the right name etc. Add a doc file in src/main/docs etc. > >> > > > >> > > And then you can build it locally with mvn clean install so you have > >> > > the JAR in your local m2 repo. > >> > > Then you can try to use it from your example to see it works. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:05 PM Steve973 <steve...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Ok, that makes sense. Another thing that I am curious about is the > >> fact > >> > > > that using create-starter wants there to be a camel-springdoc > >> library > >> > > that > >> > > > the camel-springdoc-starter configures. When I try to create a > >> starter > >> > > > module manually, and without that nonexistent library, it won't > >> build for > >> > > > me. This is the first time that I am working directly on the Camel > >> code, > >> > > > so if there is a decent resource to get me started, would you mind > >> > > pointing > >> > > > me in the right direction, please? > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks, > >> > > > Steve > >> > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 2:33 PM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 8:05 PM Steve973 <steve...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi, Claus. I am assuming that you made your modifications, and > >> then > >> > > > > added > >> > > > > > them to a test project (locally, not in the repo) and brought > >> in the > >> > > > > > springdoc ui dependency into that? I am asking because I don't > >> see > >> > > it in > >> > > > > > the branch that you pushed for this ticket. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Yes I used your example from that github link you had. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks, > >> > > > > > Steve > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 1:13 PM Steve973 <steve...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > My ASF Jira username is Steve973. I'd be glad to take what > >> you > >> > > have > >> > > > > done > >> > > > > > > and create a new module with it. By the way, you might > >> remember a > >> > > > > > > discussion about the implementation of the Dynamic Router EIP > >> that > >> > > we > >> > > > > had a > >> > > > > > > few years ago. I am just now getting around to implementing > >> it in > >> > > a > >> > > > > way > >> > > > > > > that better agrees with the EIP description. I would like > >> your > >> > > > > thoughts > >> > > > > > > and input on it. Should I start a new email thread about it? > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks again, > >> > > > > > > Steve > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 11:10 AM Claus Ibsen < > >> > > claus.ib...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> Okay I got this working now. Had to fix a thing in > >> > > camel-openapi-java > >> > > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-17063 > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> The UI now works and I can see the rest-dsl services and > >> invoke > >> > > them. > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> Steve, so what is needed is to take that work on > >> > > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/camel-spring-boot/tree/CAMEL-17061 > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> And move that into a new camel-springdoc-starter module > >> > > > > > >> and then polish and adjust the code so it uses > >> camel.springdoc as > >> > > > > > >> configuration instead of camel.openapi > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> Since you use servlet then it requires 3.13.0-SNAPSHOT to > >> have > >> > > fixes > >> > > > > > >> from camel-openapi-java, so you may need to build a camel > >> project > >> > > > > > >> locally too. > >> > > > > > >> You can do that with > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> mvn clean install -P fastinstall > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> After this it would be nice to add camel-springdoc-starter > >> to one > >> > > of > >> > > > > > >> the REST examples at > >> > > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/camel-spring-boot-examples > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> And then update the readme file with some details. > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> And you are also welcome to write a guest blog to be posted > >> on the > >> > > > > > >> Camel front page about this new feature in Camel 3.13. > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> If you have a JIRA account then let me know the username > >> then I > >> > > can > >> > > > > > >> grant your karma to assign the ticket at > >> > > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-17061 > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 2:14 PM Claus Ibsen < > >> > > claus.ib...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > Hi > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > Okay I have it almost working in the sprindoc UI. > >> > > > > > >> > However there is a glitch when using servlet as you need to > >> > > have the > >> > > > > > >> > servlet run in its own context-path so it does not affect > >> > > > > spring-boot, > >> > > > > > >> > eg that is why it runs with /camel/* by default. > >> > > > > > >> > However the UI when you click "try it out" then it invokes > >> the > >> > > > > service > >> > > > > > >> > without that content-path. > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > So I need to find a solution for this in rest-dsl + > >> servlet + > >> > > > > open-api > >> > > > > > >> > - however if I invoke the correct url then it works nice. > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > There is also some tags that just say "camel" we can maybe > >> > > enrich > >> > > > > this > >> > > > > > >> > by default to have a bit more nicer details like the > >> Actuator > >> > > does. > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > The work is pushed on a branch here > >> > > > > > >> > > >> https://github.com/apache/camel-spring-boot/tree/CAMEL-17061 > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 12:28 PM Claus Ibsen < > >> > > claus.ib...@gmail.com > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Hi > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Yeah that is a good idea. However as springdoc is for > >> spring > >> > > boot > >> > > > > > >> > > only, then lets put it only into camel-spring-boot > >> project. > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > camel-springdoc-starter > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I have some prototype code I put into camel-openapi-java > >> that > >> > > can > >> > > > > be > >> > > > > > >> > > moved into this new springdoc-starter and used as a > >> starting > >> > > > > point. > >> > > > > > >> > > Then you should be able to just add > >> camel-springdoc-starter > >> > > JAR as > >> > > > > > >> > > dependency to your project and then it comes with the UI > >> > > included. > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I will put my work into a branch on camel-spring-boot > >> > > upstream, > >> > > > > then > >> > > > > > >> > > you are welcome to look at that and work on the > >> > > > > > >> > > camel-springdoc-starter. > >> > > > > > >> > > Documentation should be included in the > >> > > > > > >> > > src/main/docs/springdoc-starter.adoc file. > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 6:16 PM Steve973 < > >> steve...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > That sounds great! I was able to get both definitions > >> to > >> > > > > coexist, > >> > > > > > >> although > >> > > > > > >> > > > I am not sure if it is entirely ideal or not. I > >> achieved > >> > > this > >> > > > > in > >> > > > > > >> the > >> > > > > > >> > > > configuration: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > springdoc: > >> > > > > > >> > > > show-actuator: true > >> > > > > > >> > > > swagger-ui: > >> > > > > > >> > > > disable-swagger-default-url: true > >> > > > > > >> > > > urls: > >> > > > > > >> > > > # Definition generated by springdoc for the > >> actuator > >> > > > > endpoints > >> > > > > > >> > > > - url: /v3/api-docs > >> > > > > > >> > > > name: Spring Boot Actuator > >> > > > > > >> > > > # The Camel REST DSL swagger > >> > > > > > >> > > > - url: /api/api-doc > >> > > > > > >> > > > name: Rest API > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Now, if we change the selection at the top, where it > >> says > >> > > > > "Select a > >> > > > > > >> > > > definition", we can choose between the REST API and the > >> > > Spring > >> > > > > Boot > >> > > > > > >> > > > Actuator endpoints. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I do like your idea, though. If we can have these > >> things > >> > > work > >> > > > > > >> together, > >> > > > > > >> > > > and more easily, that would be even better. Should I > >> > > attempt to > >> > > > > > >> create a > >> > > > > > >> > > > camel-springdoc-java component and starter? I can see > >> this > >> > > > > working > >> > > > > > >> well > >> > > > > > >> > > > with the REST DSL, and with other spring boot rest > >> > > controllers > >> > > > > all > >> > > > > > >> > > > coexisting in the same project. In the forums, etc, I > >> saw > >> > > more > >> > > > > > >> than a > >> > > > > > >> > > > couple of questions about getting a UI on top of > >> swagger, so > >> > > > > this > >> > > > > > >> might be > >> > > > > > >> > > > a useful thing for some people. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 11:57 AM Claus Ibsen < > >> > > > > claus.ib...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Hi Steven > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks for the work. I looked as well and we can > >> likely > >> > > make > >> > > > > Camel > >> > > > > > >> > > > > automatic enlist its rest-dsl into spring boot so the > >> > > > > springdoc > >> > > > > > >> can > >> > > > > > >> > > > > automatic discover it > >> > > > > > >> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-17061 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > We do this in the -starter JARs and make it possible > >> to > >> > > turn > >> > > > > > >> on|off so > >> > > > > > >> > > > > users can decide. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 5:23 PM Steve973 < > >> > > steve...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Please have a look at my working example. When I > >> get > >> > > it all > >> > > > > > >> working, and > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > cleaned up, I can submit it as one of the camel > >> example > >> > > > > > >> modules, if that > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > would be helpful. I would make the project > >> resemble the > >> > > > > other > >> > > > > > >> examples > >> > > > > > >> > > > > as > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > closely as possible. I thought that being able to > >> > > include > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > > >> actuator > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > endpoints would be a good illustration of how > >> other REST > >> > > > > > >> endpoints could > >> > > > > > >> > > > > be > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > included with the camel rest information. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 10:59 AM Steve973 < > >> > > > > steve...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thank you, Claus. I have been chipping away at > >> this > >> > > > > problem, > >> > > > > > >> and it is > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > quite possible to point springdoc to the > >> generated > >> > > swagger > >> > > > > > >> JSON. In my > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > application.yml: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > springdoc: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > show-actuator: true > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > swagger-ui: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > disable-swagger-default-url: true > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > url: /api/api-doc > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > You can see that I have "show-actuator: true", > >> but I > >> > > have > >> > > > > not > >> > > > > > >> gotten > >> > > > > > >> > > > > this > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > to work, yet. I don't suppose that there is any > >> way > >> > > to > >> > > > > have > >> > > > > > >> the camel > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > openapi java component include this in its > >> openapi doc > >> > > > > > >> generation, is > >> > > > > > >> > > > > there? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 10:11 AM Claus Ibsen < > >> > > > > > >> claus.ib...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> At first thought I would assume springdoc needs > >> a > >> > > way to > >> > > > > > >> discover the > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Camel Rest DSL model (api doc). > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> And maybe this can be done by exposing a bean > >> into > >> > > Spring > >> > > > > > >> that is of > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> type OpenApi > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> @Bean > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> public OpenApi camelRestDsl() { > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ... // some code here that gathers the camel > >> > > rest-dsl > >> > > > > > >> model and > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> return as bean > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> } > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> However I am only speculating. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> You can try to add a custom method in your > >> sample > >> > > app and > >> > > > > > >> just > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> hardcode some bogus open api model as above and > >> see > >> > > if > >> > > > > > >> springdoc > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> detects this. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Otherwise it can help if you have time to read > >> into > >> > > > > > >> springodc how to > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> integrate with custom frameworks. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 1:37 PM Steve973 < > >> > > > > steve...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Hi, Claus. Thank you for the reply! You can > >> find > >> > > > > > >> springdoc here: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > https://springdoc.org/ and I moved my > >> project from > >> > > > > using > >> > > > > > >> springfox > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> because > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > springfox has only one developer, and > >> springdoc is > >> > > > > > >> maintained by a > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > community. The artifact that I am using is > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > "org.springdoc:springdoc-openapi-ui:1.5.11". > >> I am > >> > > > > using > >> > > > > > >> Spring Boot > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> 2.5.5, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > and Camel 3.12.0. So that you can also see > >> what I > >> > > am > >> > > > > > >> doing, in > >> > > > > > >> > > > > case I > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> am > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > doing something that is prohibiting the Camel > >> > > OpenAPI > >> > > > > > >> functionality > >> > > > > > >> > > > > from > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > working correctly, I pushed my example to > >> Github: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > https://github.com/Steve973/spring-camel-rest-experiments > >> > > > > > >> where I > >> > > > > > >> > > > > am > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> trying > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > out a minimal example just to see if I can > >> get it > >> > > > > > >> working. Thanks > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> again! > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Steve > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 3:23 AM Claus Ibsen < > >> > > > > > >> claus.ib...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Hi > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I have not tried that myself, can you maybe > >> point > >> > > > > links > >> > > > > > >> to where > >> > > > > > >> > > > > this > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > spring ui exists? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > And what version of SB and Camel are you > >> using? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 12:37 AM Steve973 < > >> > > > > > >> steve...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Hello. I am using spring boot with the > >> camel > >> > > rest > >> > > > > dsl > >> > > > > > >> and it is > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> working > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > great. I can also have swagger JSON > >> generated > >> > > and > >> > > > > > >> accessible. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > But > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > would > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > like to use the springdoc openapi user > >> > > interface to > >> > > > > > >> interact > >> > > > > > >> > > > > with > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> my rest > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > endpoints. I have tried for hours, and I > >> have > >> > > not > >> > > > > > >> been able to > >> > > > > > >> > > > > get > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> the > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > UI > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > to come up. Does anyone know if it is > >> > > possible to > >> > > > > use > >> > > > > > >> > > > > camel-rest > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> and the > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > springdoc openapi user interface together? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -- > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Claus Ibsen > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ----------------- > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Camel in Action 2: > >> > > https://www.manning.com/ibsen2 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -- > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Claus Ibsen > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ----------------- > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Camel in Action 2: > >> https://www.manning.com/ibsen2 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -- > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Claus Ibsen > >> > > > > > >> > > > > ----------------- > >> > > > > > >> > > > > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -- > >> > > > > > >> > > Claus Ibsen > >> > > > > > >> > > ----------------- > >> > > > > > >> > > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > >> > > > > > >> > > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2 > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > -- > >> > > > > > >> > Claus Ibsen > >> > > > > > >> > ----------------- > >> > > > > > >> > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > >> > > > > > >> > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2 > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> -- > >> > > > > > >> Claus Ibsen > >> > > > > > >> ----------------- > >> > > > > > >> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > >> > > > > > >> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2 > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -- > >> > > > > Claus Ibsen > >> > > > > ----------------- > >> > > > > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > >> > > > > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2 > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Claus Ibsen > >> > > ----------------- > >> > > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > >> > > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2 > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Claus Ibsen > >> ----------------- > >> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > >> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2 > >> > > -- Claus Ibsen ----------------- http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
