sry I meant executor.

On Fri, 1 Sept 2023, 10:57 bukaj_s, <jsod...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You are confusing coroutines and virtual threads.
> Afaik you can try to use virtual thread pool, question is how much
> synchronization is camel using under the hood.
>
> On Fri, 1 Sept 2023, 10:34 ski n, <raymondmees...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, thanks. It will take some (couple of years) before most libraries are
>> catching up.
>>
>> At least, Spring Boot will already support Java 21 with virtual threads in
>> their next release (
>> https://spring.io/blog/2023/08/24/spring-boot-3-2-0-m2-available-now). I
>> don't know exactly how they do it, but they ship Spring as a multi release
>> Jar for this purpose. When running Spring on Java 21 you can enable it (
>>
>> https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-boot/wiki/Spring-Boot-3.2.0-M1-Release-Notes#support-for-virtual-threads
>> ).
>>
>> I was thinking more or less in the same lines for Camel. For most of the
>> cases the underlying libraries needs to be updated, but for some stuff
>> like
>> Seda or Stream caching this may already work from within the libraries own
>> code.
>>
>> Raymond
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:36 AM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > No plan for virtual threads - this relies on 3rd party libraries and
>> many
>> > other frameworks starting to adopt them as well, which means Java 21 as
>> > minimum base version.
>> > Support for Java 21 is to run on JDK21. JDK17 will be primary supported,
>> > and 21 secondary, that is the plan for this year.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:34 AM ski n <raymondmees...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > In integration there is a lot of Async I/O (calling disk, databases,
>> > api's
>> > > and other external systems). Though Camel is very fast, it's mostly
>> these
>> > > async I/O calls that take time and eat a lot of platform threads.
>> > >
>> > > For example:
>> > >
>> > > from("direct:start")
>> > >   .log("some log") //this takes less than 1 ms
>> > >   .setHeader(Exchange.HTTP_URI, constant("http://someapi";)) //this
>> takes
>> > > less than 1 ms
>> > >   .to("http://someapi";) //this takes 3 seconds
>> > >   .setHeader("Result","Done") //this takes less than 1 ms
>> > >   .to("sql://insertindatabase")  //this takes less than 1 seconds
>> > >   ;
>> > >
>> > > One solution to this is using virtual threads. They are already part
>> of
>> > > Kotlin (coroutines), but now coming to Java as well in Java 21
>> (release
>> > > 19th September).
>> > >
>> > > In the Camel 4 blog "What's new" it states that:
>> > >
>> > > "We plan to support Java 21 on next LTS released by the end of this
>> > year."
>> > >
>> > > Camel next LTS release (4.2) is expected around December.
>> > >
>> > > I was wondering what the plans here are with supporting virtual
>> threads?
>> > > Will they part of 4.2 or planned for later?
>> > >
>> > > Raymond
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Claus Ibsen
>> > -----------------
>> > @davsclaus
>> > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>> >
>>
>

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