I don't think that Ian was suggesting that we get rid of that wording completely. I think he was saying that we could supplement that message with some more interesting marketing that will better illustrate the value proposition of ACS and how it is differentiated.
Will *Will STEVENS* Lead Developer *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Sally Khudairi < sallykhuda...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > NOT SO FAST. > Whilst it's old hat to us, it's still relevant. > Per the 2015 Linux Jobs Report published yesterday: > "The rise of open cloud platforms is creating even more demand for Linux > professionals with the right expertise. Forty-two percent of hiring > managers say that experience in OpenStack and CloudStack will have a major > impact on their hiring decisions..." > > So I think it _is_ important that we keep "Open Source Cloud Computing", > but perhaps augment to more closely align with our "Just Works" and related > campaigns/taglines. > Whilst we may need a bit of Botox, it's not necessary to have a complete > overhaul. > Thanks for including us in the dialogue, Ian <g> > Cheers,Sally > From: Ian Rae <i...@cloudops.com> > To: "d...@cloudstack.apache.org" <d...@cloudstack.apache.org> > Cc: "users@cloudstack.apache.org" <users@cloudstack.apache.org>; " > market...@cloudstack.apache.org" <market...@cloudstack.apache.org> > Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2015, 11:41 > Subject: Re: or website > > Recommend we start with the purpose of the website. If only informational > and logistics, documentation and code then perhaps it doesn't matter. But I > think there is a greater purpose. > I would argue it not only represents our project and community, but > communicates our project and community to the rest of the world and to some > extent aligns the community itself. > So I agree with Seb that having a modern, professional, ideally attractive > design is very important. Equally important that the vision, mission of the > community be clear and accessible, and ideally, exciting! What problem does > CloudStack solve better than anything else? Does it solve it in the way the > market is looking for (i.e. costs nothing for a complete product that works > out of box, vendor neutral, runs easily and reliably and can be upgraded > for long term supportability). > Today if you glance at the site you see "Open Source Cloud Computing". I'm > not sure that's very helpful in an age where everything is moving to open > source and cloud computing no longer seems to mean in the market what it > did in 2008 (pretty much every web or mobile app or hosting services seems > to be "cloud"). > Cross posting this discussion to marketing, hopefully this can intersect > with renewed investment by the community members to make CloudStack more > accessible to the rest of the world and thus bring more participants to the > community. > Ian > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> > wrote: > > Hi Sebastien, > > I really like the initiative, while cms.apache.org is handy I think the > gh-pages repo looks neat plus we can continue to use git and not archaic > svn :) > > I think we can then perhaps have an automated way to build the gh-pages > branch and copy the htmls to cms etc. Should we also use Jekyll based > website since the link (http://apache.github.io/cloudstack/) will be > built automatically by Github (need to confirm, if it allows for non-master > branches)? I’ve some Jekyll based experience, my website too is hosted on > Github and uses Jekyll. > > > On 05-Mar-2015, at 8:01 pm, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > The website has been bugging me greatly, it's not up to par with today's > website and does not portray our project in a good way. > > > > I decided to try something quick. I created a gh-pages branch in our > repo, orphaned from the rest of the code based and pushed that. > > It shows up on github due to the mirroring: > > > > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/tree/gh-pages > > > > And it builds: > > > > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/tree/gh-pages > > > > I believe that's nice, it allows us to keep the website under ASF root > repo but the mirroring allows us to use github pages. > > That means we can take pull requests to build our website instead of > using svn or the apache CMS. > > > > Any amazing web designer on these lists who wants to take a crack at a > modern design for cloudstack ? > > > > thanks, > > > > -sebastien > > Regards, > Rohit Yadav > Software Architect, ShapeBlue > M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com > Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab > > > > Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services > > IaaS Cloud Design & Build< > http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//> > CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> > CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/> > CloudStack Software Engineering< > http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/> > CloudStack Infrastructure Support< > http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> > CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses< > http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> > > This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended > solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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