Hi Swen,

If you wanted to do this on boot with cloud-init or a similar mechanism you 
would actually engineer the solution such that an internet connection wasn’t 
required. If you have every VM updating over the internet you end up paying for 
a lot of unnecessary bandwidth. You would instead make sure you have internal 
cloned patch repositories which you synchronize hourly/daily  - which means all 
user VMs only pull patches on the internal network. You could even “eat your 
own dogfood/drink your own champagne” and host this on one of the accounts in 
the same CloudStack infrastructure – then simply set up connection on the 
public network. That way the update traffic isn’t ever leaving your switches 
per se.

Not sure how AWS etc. do this, but they have deep pockets…

Regards,
Dag Sonstebo
Cloud Architect
ShapeBlue

On 19/01/2017, 13:31, "S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH" <s.brues...@proio.com> wrote:

    @Dag: Thanks for the confirmation and for the link.
    
    @Rene: Of course it is the user's responsibility, but we want to provide a 
VM with the latest updates each time you deploy a new VM. :-) I know that 
cloud-init can do this on boot, but what if the network has no internet 
connection?
    
    Does anybody know how AWS or DigitalOcean is handling this?
    
    Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,
    
    Swen
    
    
    -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    Von: Rene Moser [mailto:m...@renemoser.net] 
    Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2017 11:03
    An: users@cloudstack.apache.org
    Betreff: Re: Template management
    
    Hi Swen
    
    On 01/19/2017 10:04 AM, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH wrote:
    
    > I am really interested in other solutions and workflows, so please 
    > shoot. :-)
    
    We decided to not doing or minimize (1-2 updates per year) templates 
updates for "system updates" for two main reasons:
    
    1. It is the user's responsibility to keep systems up to date anyway.
    2. Using cfg management and/or cloud-init is more than easy to update 
systems.
    
    Regards
    René
    
    
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