I'm in the favour of keeping the 4.x going because no API compatibility is 
broken, and as long as we are following semver there is no need. Calling a 4.x 
a 5.x just for the sake of bumping versions may cause some perception issue.

Removal of unsupported/poc/incomplete features, plugins including APIs should 
not constitute breaking of compatibility. Several network and hypervisor 
plugins are still in poc/incomplete/unmaintained state.

Unless the API layer, and perhaps DB layer is re-architected there is no point 
in calling the next version 5.x as long as semver is followed.

In my opinion, the next major version 5.0 should have a restful versioned API 
layer, a new DB+upgrade framework that may support multiple db servers, a new 
UI, sandboxed plugin framework (right now a plugin can do anything it wants to 
say the cloud db), a new agent-clustering framework (the current low level nio 
and rpc code goes away), a distributed message bus and locking service (that we 
thought to introduce in 4.2,4.3 but incomplete), and refactor the networking/VR 
layer with a new VR. Not to mention cleanup some technical debt. The keywords 
being major architectural and api/integrational changes. Some of this maybe 
on-going, but we'll get to 5.x with patience over time.

Regards,
Rohit Yadav

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From: Ivan Kudryavtsev <kudryavtsev...@bw-sw.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 9:15:29 AM
To: users; dev
Subject: Why CloudStack 5

I decided whether to write it several weeks thinking about the stones and
rotten potatoes, but still decided to do that. Hope it will not raise the
stress level.

Colleagues and ACS leaders, I would like to initiate the discussion. Why go
to CS5 rather than stay with 4.XX. Some thoughts are:

1. According to the versioning guide, the first number stands for radical
changes like if the community decided to go from current ORM to Hibernate.
I don't see the capabilities for such changes and there are no intentions
for the implementation.

2. I can realize that we 'stuck' with '4.XX' and the marketing can be
disappointing from that point of view. Then, OK, let's just skip the first
number "4." and release, ACS 13.X, 14.X, 15.X and so on. Every version will
receive new impressing version number and everyone could be happy about
that.

Going to version "5" currently looks like as an intention to refresh but
with very poor motivation. At least to me.

The discussion is strongly welcome.



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