Well from my experience in the industry OpenDS has had a huge impact on the industry as its the root product for Oracle, ForgeRock and Ping today. I have been working with all three of them. They have customized it suit their specific integrations, but they have expanded its capabilities to be much more than just an identity store. Every client I have had over the past 10 years has had some version of OpenDS backing up their IAM implementations. And now each of those companies offers some form of it for containerized deployments. We don't hear much about directory servers because its the backend of so many systems. But I know from experience that a lot of companies have both Active Directory and some form of OpenDS these days. And the modern versions are very scalable.
That being said I would really like to see a real opensource and free LDAP based on Java out there that could compete with those 3 big companies. I'd be willing to help do some development. I would just have learn that list you mentioned before. And focus on specific areas. On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 8:56 AM Shawn McKinney < shawn.michael.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 14, 2023, at 12:32 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <elecha...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > A bit of history: > > > > ApacheDS was started in 2002 by Alex Karasulu, who brought is own effort > (Ldapd) into the Apache incubator in october 2003, so pretty much 2 years > *before* Neil Wilson started to work on OpenDS. > > We offered the OpenDS team to coodinate our efforts when we announced > ApacheDS 1.0 in 2006 at Austin, during the ApacheCon conference. This never > actually happened, as Sun was already fighting with internal difficulties, > leading to the departure of Neil and a few collegues to create UnboundID. > > We tried to start a common effort to design what is now the LDAP API > with Sun, and it somehow leads to some work been done in common, but at the > end, Sun completely let down. > > > > I don't see the point in forking OpenDS; it's already 17 years old, and > would require a huge effort to get to live. Plus who will engage in thsi > effort? > > > > All in all, I'm not sure OpenDJ or OpenDS has made a lot of impact on > the industry, which is currently dominated by Active Directory (for the > worse) and OpenLDAP. > > > > Time flies. I remember, circa 2000, when Sun dominated the directory space > and OpenLDAP was the “toy”. > > Back then M$ couldn’t even spell LDAP ;-) > > Things have changed. I pretty much agree with your characterization of how > things stand. > > Where there might be a difference is ApacheDS should be usable in prod. > > Small to medium sized prod installations. > > — > Shawn > > > So we still think there is some space for ApacheDS, but in a different > area. We decided from day one that ApacheDS should be as compatible as > possible with OpenLDAP, because we guys are working i the same spirit of > true Open Source. And actually, migrating from ApacheDS to OpenLDAP should > be a breeze. > > > > Our main pros are that you can use ApacheDS as a test bed while > developping your Java application based on a OpenLDAP server without having > to deal with teh complkexity of installing and managing OpenLDAP during the > development phase: you can embed ApacheDS as a test environment ( > https://directory.apache.org/conference-materials.data/testing-LDAP.pdf) > without having to deal with cleaning up anything in between tests, à la > testContainer but without the extra 10 seconds required to start the > container... > > > > Plus we have Studio, which is extra util. > > > > Bottom line, we have a path to get ApacheDS being production ready, it's > now just a matter of time to get it on track. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@directory.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@directory.apache.org > > -- Thanks, Brian Wolfe https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-wolfe-3136425a/
