Nice response ;)
I guess we just come at it from different directions. We do use OSGi for
web app development, and it's been very successful. We've got rock solid
GWT support, a decent spread of back end services, including all the
usual infrastructure plumbing like logging, user auth, personalization
etc etc. We did roll a lot of it ourselves, but in truth most of the
effort was figuring out how best to architect things - which I suspect
we'd have needed to do even if we'd used more pre-built app framework
functionality. We did pick and choose a lot of free standing libs to
help us, such as the usual suspects of Log4j, Apache Commons
Configuration, Hibernate, XML and XSLT tools, a sprinkle of Spring
Security, java html/chart/pdf report generators like iText, TrueZip, and
too many others too mention.
In the end, it wasn't that much code or effort to wire each of these
libs in ways that exactly met our needs.
-- Rob
Kirk Knoernschild wrote:
Rob,
Thank you for the comment on my blog posting. I've responded, but will
also take a moment to respond here, as well.
I didn't intend to come across as narrowly focused. In fact, I thought
I was pretty broadly focused and had made it clear I was talking about
OSGi for web application development. I felt I was pretty clear that
OSGi proper (Equinox and Felix) is ready for primetime, but the
tooling and application platform is not. I'm an OSGi advocate, but
it's unrealistic to expect an enterprise developer to glue together
the components necessary to develop an enterprise application using
OSGi. That's why we use products and frameworks - so we don't have to.
You can respectfully disagree with my argument, but the reality is
that until better tooling exists and the application platform exposes
the capabilities of OSGi, the enterprise is not going to use it. And I
wish they could!
I shall now take a retreat to write some code...:-)
Kirk Knoernschild
http://www.kirkk.com
http://techdistrict.kirkk.com
http://planet.kirkk.com
twitter: pragkirk
On Mar 26, 2009, at Mar 26, 1:04 AM, Rob Walker wrote:
I added my 10c:
http://techdistrict.kirkk.com/2009/03/25/osgi-discontent-no-migration-path/#comment-7129
When did developing sotfware and apps get reduced to mindless lego
block assembly - where did all the real programmers go? I guess
they're writing code not blogs!
- R
Dave McLoughlin wrote:
Someone may want to comment/respond on this article:
http://techdistrict.kirkk.com/2009/03/25/osgi-discontent-no-migration-pa
th/
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