Have a look at:
http://forge.ow2.org/projects/dysoweb
http://www.requea.com/do/Support/Documentation/Documentation/index?sysId=a40485cd-af22-4988-9514-53c1cad35ce0&pctx=dbf93cb31f622c43012043af25e444b4
http://www.requea.com/do/archi/dysoweb/Dysoweb
On Mar 26, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Kirk Knoernschild wrote:
The techniques you are using are the types of best practices and
patterns that are lacking, and that are impeding more widespread
adoption. How are you embedding Felix in your apps? How do you
support JSP? That type of thing. Can you share the techniques you're
using to deploy web apps to these app servers while still leveraging
OSGi?
Kirk Knoernschild
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On Mar 26, 2009, at Mar 26, 10:12 AM, Pierre Dubois wrote:
I second Rob.
We came from a different perspective, but got the same result. Not
saying it is trivial, but definitely doable. We do use pretty much
the same stuff (log4j, hibernate, lucene, itext, jackrabbit)
deployed in Felix. We do only Web dev, and our stuff runs in
Tomcat, JBoss, Weblogic and Oracle AS. We do not use Jetty tough.
Pierre
On Mar 26, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Kirk Knoernschild wrote:
Rob,
Curious - What application server do you use? Jetty embedded
within Felix?
I never suggested it wasn't possible to do (I know it's possible),
only that it isn't feasible for most organizations to attempt. But
if I've got my current generation of applications deployed on
WAS, WebLogic, or JBoss, most organizations would look at me like
I was crazy were I to suggest embedding Jetty within Felix.
Kirk Knoernschild
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http://techdistrict.kirkk.com
http://planet.kirkk.com
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On Mar 26, 2009, at Mar 26, 8:56 AM, Rob Walker wrote:
Nice response ;)
I guess we just come at it from different directions. We do use
OSGi for web app development, and it's been very successful.
We've got rock solid GWT support, a decent spread of back end
services, including all the usual infrastructure plumbing like
logging, user auth, personalization etc etc. We did roll a lot of
it ourselves, but in truth most of the effort was figuring out
how best to architect things - which I suspect we'd have needed
to do even if we'd used more pre-built app framework
functionality. We did pick and choose a lot of free standing libs
to help us, such as the usual suspects of Log4j, Apache Commons
Configuration, Hibernate, XML and XSLT tools, a sprinkle of
Spring Security, java html/chart/pdf report generators like
iText, TrueZip, and too many others too mention.
In the end, it wasn't that much code or effort to wire each of
these libs in ways that exactly met our needs.
-- Rob
Kirk Knoernschild wrote:
Rob,
Thank you for the comment on my blog posting. I've responded,
but will also take a moment to respond here, as well.
I didn't intend to come across as narrowly focused. In fact, I
thought I was pretty broadly focused and had made it clear I was
talking about OSGi for web application development. I felt I was
pretty clear that OSGi proper (Equinox and Felix) is ready for
primetime, but the tooling and application platform is not. I'm
an OSGi advocate, but it's unrealistic to expect an enterprise
developer to glue together the components necessary to develop
an enterprise application using OSGi. That's why we use products
and frameworks - so we don't have to. You can respectfully
disagree with my argument, but the reality is that until better
tooling exists and the application platform exposes the
capabilities of OSGi, the enterprise is not going to use it. And
I wish they could!
I shall now take a retreat to write some code...:-)
Kirk Knoernschild
http://www.kirkk.com
http://techdistrict.kirkk.com
http://planet.kirkk.com
twitter: pragkirk
On Mar 26, 2009, at Mar 26, 1:04 AM, Rob Walker wrote:
I added my 10c:
http://techdistrict.kirkk.com/2009/03/25/osgi-discontent-no-migration-path/#comment-7129
When did developing sotfware and apps get reduced to mindless
lego block assembly - where did all the real programmers go? I
guess they're writing code not blogs!
- R
Dave McLoughlin wrote:
Someone may want to comment/respond on this article:
http://techdistrict.kirkk.com/2009/03/25/osgi-discontent-no-migration-pa
th/
Dave McLoughlin | OpenLogic
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