Good to hear, I'll have to sign up to that list then...
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Alex Harui <[email protected]> wrote: > Over on the [email protected] list, there is tons of activity on > removing > Flash as a dependency. > > > On 1/28/13 12:46 AM, "Michael Montoya" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > As the feedback to the Linux question grows, it highlights for me a > glaring > > flaw in the Apache Flex project; and this is the inherent conflict of > > interest between the stated aims of the open-source community and the > > for-profit model espoused by proprietary technology. While there is > nothing > > inherently wrong with either model, I think that when it comes to > open-source > > technology, it should be an all-or nothing proposition. > > > > Adobe has effectively given the open source community the keys to the > car but > > kept control of the engine to itself (i.e. the AIR runtime and the Flash > > Player). This means that at Adobe's whim, as the political winds have > already > > shown it capable of, it can invalidate all the efforts of the open source > > community in favor of some alternate avenue were the potential returns > worth > > the expense of inciting the community's ire. Where profit is concerned, > never > > think that the unthinkable won't be done - we have lately seen many such > > poignant pyrotechnic displays of large companies "nuking" each other for > > dominance over the mobile space... (insert name of large publicly traded > > company here). > > > > As developers, sure we're concerned about earning our paychecks, but if > profit > > were our only motive we'd all be investment bankers - no, we want to > build new > > tools to make people wonder and delight, to eliminate the drudgery of > the old > > way of doing things, to innovate and dream up new ways of overcoming > hurdles > > that have no business in the virtual world... > > > > To this end, I hate obstacles, and I see Adobe's control over the > lynch-pin of > > this particular project as a particularly troubling one. I would propose > that > > Actionscript and, consequently, Flex, target the JVM (or any other > comparable > > open source engine capable of providing the 2D and 3D graphics context > and web > > services) and therefore completely sever it's ties to proprietary > technology. > > So long as the Apache Flex project is a satellite to proprietary > technology I > > can't place much stock in its long term success and I have reservations > about > > getting completely behind it. > > > > If you feel otherwise, I would love to hear your reasoning as to why you > feel > > its proprietary ties are not really an obstacle to its success. > > > > This is truly not an attempt to flame, I've been a Flash/Actionscript > user > > since Flash 2 having made a huge investment in Flash technology and I > truly > > hope for its continued success as a free, independent venture. My aim is > to > > engender a high-level dialogue to ensure that Apache Flex is truly > charting > > the best possible course. > > > > Best, > > Michael Montoya > > Lead Front End Developer > > Stockpile.com > > > > On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Brad Neufeld <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> When I have completed my current project, I would be happy to test a > linux > >> distribution as well. It is my preferred environment and I had to > setup a > >> virtual machine just to run XP and Flex. It would be great to get rid > of > >> that extra step. > >> > >> I was never clear what the specific technical hurdles were that Adobe > was > >> unable to overcome in order to port to Linux, and I hope we do not find > out > >> that the problem is much more intractable than one might think. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Brad > > -- > Alex Harui > Flex SDK Team > Adobe Systems, Inc. > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > >
