We could choose something other than HTML5, but so far nobody has stepped up to execute on that. Personally, I think it is too much work for the community we have at this time. But if you want to get started, please do.
Alex Harui Apache Flex Team http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > -----Original Message----- > From: Claude Bernardini [mailto:cbernard...@ultima-com.net] > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:33 AM > To: users@flex.apache.org > Subject: Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again) > > Hi, > > I totally agree with Mike. > HTML 5 is a poor alternative. > > Anyway, if we must deliver HTML 5, why choose Flex ? > It's better to choose true HTML 5 / js frameworks. > HTML 5 with Flex will have too much limitations. > > Perhaps it would be better to have Java/C#/Objectice C outputs... > > > > Le 15/05/2013 13:10, mike_l_mcconn...@lamd.uscourts.gov a écrit : > > I worry less about the message than I do the motivation behind the > > push towards HTML5. It still makes no sense to me from a developer's > > perspective, though I've tried very hard to understand it. "Standards > > based" or not, HTML5 is inferior technology when compared to what can > > be delivered with Flash and AIR (and the ease with which it can be > > done using development environments like Flex). Users don't know or > > care about the runtime environment in which their applications run, > > nor should they. This isn't really about users, though. It's not > > about the web. It's not about getting behind a "standard". What it's > > about is creating demand for products that make the difficult task of > > developing in HTML/CSS/JavaScript a bit more palatable. And where > > there's demand, there's profit (theoretically, anyway). I don't > > believe for a minute that this is some noble "drive the web forward" > > initiative. That's only the veneer. The true goal, in my not so > > humble opinion, is what it always is and always will be: enhancing the > > bottom line. There's certainly nothing wrong with a company making > > money....it's why they exist, after all. But to tout what is clearly > > a less suitable solution (for RIAs) as the next great frontier is, at > best, disingenuous. These are my opinions...your mileage may vary. > > > > M. McConnell > > > > > > > > > > From: Lee Burrows <subscripti...@leeburrows.com> > > To: users@flex.apache.org > > Date: 05/15/2013 06:15 AM > > Subject: Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again) > > > > > > > > Thanks Alex. > > > > I appreciate your comments - with the 5 year commitment from Adobe, > > and FlexJS on the horizon, i can relax (a bit). > > > > I just worry about your employers sometimes. At Max 2011, the message > > was "use HTML5 for RIAs", and shortly afterwards mobile Flash Player > > was dropped. At Max 2013, the message was "use HTML5 for games" - > > which made me wonder what bombshell Adobe may drop this time. > > > > -- > > Lee Burrows > > ActionScripter > > > > > > > > On 14/05/2013 20:29, Alex Harui wrote: > >> The relevant documents are: > >> [1] > >> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html > >> [2] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html > >> > >> It is [2] that mentions "five years". > >> > >> But realize that, to the best of my knowledge, there is no code that > >> will cause Flash to stop working after some day about 4 years from > >> now. To do > > so > >> would "break the web" and neither Adobe nor the major desktop/laptop > >> OS vendors are interested in doing that. It is just that Adobe is > >> not committing to new versions or taking support calls after that date. > > Also, > >> IMO, if something happens that gives Adobe a reason to extend that > >> date, they probably would, but I don't really know what that would be. > >> > >> Meanwhile, Apache Flex is doing the best it can to make sure that > >> Flex > > has > >> fewer bugs, supports more locales, etc. And some of us are even > >> looking into a next generation of Flex that will let you use MXML and > > ActionScript > >> to create apps that run in a browser or on mobile devices without > > Flash/AIR > >> so you don't have be quite so concerned about this "five year" > > commitment. > >> On 5/14/13 11:12 AM, "Lee Burrows" <subscripti...@leeburrows.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I seem to remember that Adobe committed to supporting Flash Player > >>> and AIR for 5 years - during, or shortly after, the Flex Community > >>> Summit (of Dec 11). > >>> > >>> Is that right, or did i imagine it? - i cant find any reference to > >>> it on adobe.com > >