We could choose something other than HTML5, but so far nobody has stepped up to 
execute on that.  Personally, I think it is too much work for the community we 
have at this time.  But if you want to get started, please do.

Alex Harui
Apache Flex Team
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Claude Bernardini [mailto:cbernard...@ultima-com.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:33 AM
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I totally agree with Mike.
> HTML 5 is a poor alternative.
> 
> Anyway, if we must deliver HTML 5, why choose Flex ?
> It's better to choose true HTML 5 / js frameworks.
> HTML 5 with Flex will have too much limitations.
> 
> Perhaps it would be better to have Java/C#/Objectice C outputs...
> 
> 
> 
> Le 15/05/2013 13:10, mike_l_mcconn...@lamd.uscourts.gov a écrit :
> > I worry less about the message than I do the motivation behind the
> > push towards HTML5.  It still makes no sense to me from a developer's
> > perspective, though I've tried very hard to understand it.  "Standards
> > based" or not, HTML5 is inferior technology when compared to what can
> > be delivered with Flash and AIR (and the ease with which it can be
> > done using development environments like Flex).  Users don't know or
> > care about the runtime environment in which their applications run,
> > nor should they.  This isn't really about users, though.  It's not
> > about the web.  It's not about getting behind a "standard".  What it's
> > about is creating demand for products that make the difficult task of
> > developing in HTML/CSS/JavaScript a bit more palatable.  And where
> > there's demand, there's profit (theoretically, anyway).  I don't
> > believe for a minute that this is some noble "drive the web forward"
> > initiative.  That's only the veneer.  The true goal, in my not so
> > humble opinion, is what it always is and always will be: enhancing the
> > bottom line.  There's certainly nothing wrong with a company making
> > money....it's why they exist, after all.  But to tout what is clearly
> > a less suitable solution (for RIAs) as the next great frontier is, at
> best, disingenuous.  These are my opinions...your mileage may vary.
> >
> > M. McConnell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From:       Lee Burrows <subscripti...@leeburrows.com>
> > To: users@flex.apache.org
> > Date:       05/15/2013 06:15 AM
> > Subject:    Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Alex.
> >
> > I appreciate your comments - with the 5 year commitment from Adobe,
> > and FlexJS on the horizon, i can relax (a bit).
> >
> > I just worry about your employers sometimes. At Max 2011, the message
> > was "use HTML5 for RIAs", and shortly afterwards mobile Flash Player
> > was dropped. At Max 2013, the message was "use HTML5 for games" -
> > which made me wonder what bombshell Adobe may drop this time.
> >
> > --
> > Lee Burrows
> > ActionScripter
> >
> >
> >
> > On 14/05/2013 20:29, Alex Harui wrote:
> >> The relevant documents are:
> >> [1]
> >> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html
> >> [2] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html
> >>
> >> It is [2] that mentions "five years".
> >>
> >> But realize that, to the best of my knowledge, there is no code that
> >> will cause Flash to stop working after some day about 4 years from
> >> now.  To do
> > so
> >> would "break the web" and neither Adobe nor the major desktop/laptop
> >> OS vendors are interested in doing that.  It is just that Adobe is
> >> not committing to new versions or taking support calls after that date.
> > Also,
> >> IMO, if something happens that gives Adobe a reason to extend that
> >> date, they probably would, but I don't really know what that would be.
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, Apache Flex is doing the best it can to make sure that
> >> Flex
> > has
> >> fewer bugs, supports more locales, etc.  And some of us are even
> >> looking into a next generation of Flex that will let you use MXML and
> > ActionScript
> >> to create apps that run in a browser or on mobile devices without
> > Flash/AIR
> >> so you don't have be quite so concerned about this "five year"
> > commitment.
> >> On 5/14/13 11:12 AM, "Lee Burrows" <subscripti...@leeburrows.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I seem to remember that Adobe committed to supporting Flash Player
> >>> and AIR for 5 years - during, or shortly after, the Flex Community
> >>> Summit (of Dec 11).
> >>>
> >>> Is that right, or did i imagine it? - i cant find any reference to
> >>> it on adobe.com
> >

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