Loads of my personal work used Gill Sans without a problem - check out http://flexmonkey.blogspot.com/
Simon _________________________ +44 (0) 7973 669691 [email protected] http://flexmonkey.blogspot.com/ > On 9 Oct 2013, at 18:45, [email protected] wrote: > > I just wanted to solicit from other Flex users which specific fonts > successfully embed without being blurry. > > I've tried embedding all the Helvetica and Arial fonts installed on my Mac > and they look blurry compared to the non-embedded versions in the same app. > The embedded fonts for spark are short and fat and for MX are tall and > skinny. > > Ideally, someone could refer me to a Helvetica/Arial font that they know > embeds fine. However, assuming I don't get that feedback and I need to find a > new font, I'm hoping anyone with good embed results can share their favorite > font (for Enterprise desktop applications, in my case) to benefit all users. > > Someone mentioned earlier Google Roboto, which I'll try out soon. For > reference below, Miguel mentions OpenSans, and Mihai mentions Myriad Pro. > > Thanks in advance for any feedback. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Miguel Ferreira" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 2:52:38 AM > Subject: RE: blurry fonts > > Hi all thank you for all the information. > > I was out and just today i came back to the office. > > So, i will write a resume of my working solution. > > Font: OpenSans link:<a > href="http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Open+Sans" > target="_blank" > class="newlyinsertedlink">http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Open+Sans</a> > > > on the global css turned off the kerning: > > global > { > kerning: off; > fontFamily: main; > fontSize: 11; > } > > how the fonts are embebed: > > @font-face > { > src: url("assets/fonts/OpenSans-Regular.ttf"); > fontFamily: AppFont; > fontStyle: normal; > fontWeight: normal; > embedAsCFF: true; > } > > @font-face > { > src: url("assets/fonts/OpenSans-Italic.ttf"); > fontFamily: AppFont; > fontStyle: italic; > fontWeight: normal; > embedAsCFF: true; > } > ... > > @Alex: Thanks for the info about the playerglobal. > i tried with the version 10.2 when it worked well,but when i tried the > configuration above and the result was also good in the version 11.8 i choose > for the last version. > > In this moment i will have to change components to spark like forms, > datagrid, images, spacers, etc... > And for the next release is +1 application on Apache Flex SDK 4.10! > > Thanks for all that help and that maintain the community alive! > > Best regards, > Miguel > > > >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 19:52:01 +0100 >> Subject: Re: blurry fonts >> To: [email protected] >> >> The way I did it was to edit the font file directly using Type >> Light<http://www.cr8software.net/typelight.html>. >> I went into Font->Font Options..., deselected Kerning and saved it on top >> of the original font file. With this treatment, the font does not trigger >> the bug I mentioned, yet is still readable. I did not turn off kerning as >> suggested by Maurice. I'm not even sure it would have made a difference now >> that the font did not have this information to begin with. >> >> If you're using another OS, I'm sure there is another good font editor that >> you can use to make this change. >> >> Hope it helps. >> >> >> On 4 October 2013 18:43, Maurice Amsellem >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Ah, ok. >>> >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Envoyé : vendredi 4 octobre 2013 19:42 >>> À : [email protected] >>> Objet : Re: blurry fonts >>> >>> Thanks Maurice, >>> >>> >>> Mihai's post below states to remove kerning to avoid a bug: >>> >>> >>> However, if you're going to use it, make sure you remove the kerning >>> information inside it until we have a resolution for this bug< >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33779> . >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Maurice Amsellem" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 10:29:42 AM >>> Subject: RE: blurry fonts >>> >>> global { >>> kerning: off; >>> } >>> >>> However, usually text is more readable when kerning is on, especially for >>> some letters combinations, eg AV and things like that. >>> So why would you turn it off? >>> >>> Maurice >>> >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Envoyé : vendredi 4 octobre 2013 19:12 >>> À : [email protected] >>> Objet : Re: blurry fonts >>> >>> I like peoples suggestions for embedded fonts that look nice. >>> >>> >>> Just curious though, how does one remove the kerning? Do you need special >>> font software to manipulate this? Or, is it done directly in the font file >>> somehow? Or, done using actionscript code? etc. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mihai Chira" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 1:15:27 AM >>> Subject: Re: blurry fonts >>> >>> Hey Miguel, >>> >>> >>> we're using Myriad Web >>> Pro<http://www.azfonts.net/load_font/myriadwebpro.html>with the latest >>> version of the SDK and it looks just fine. We also make software meant for >>> many hours' use. >>> >>> However, if you're going to use it, make sure you remove the kerning >>> information inside it until we have a resolution for this bug< >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33779> >>> . >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> Mihai >>> >>> >>> On 4 October 2013 08:16, Miguel Ferreira <[email protected] >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> The difference is really big. >>>> Even the colors of some item renders. >>>> But the question for me is, that will depend of the user player? >>>> For the older version is more redable but even so with the font opensans >>>> the difference is smaller. >>>> There is some font that the guy from the new renderer adivce?Because if >>>> they say that is better they should have some study cases were they can >>>> prove that. >>>> So maybe they can advice on good font for a flex enterprise >>>> application.Where the user work with it between 4 to 8 hours per day. >>>> Because with that blurry foggy fonts will be a nightmare. >>>> Thanks alex for be always available... almost 24/7 >>>> Miguel >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 23:40:44 -0700 >>>>> Subject: Re: blurry fonts >>>>> >>>>> Did you try it with an older swf version? >>>>> >>>>> On 10/3/13 11:08 PM, "Miguel Ferreira" <[email protected] >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you all, >>>>>> I am trying with another font type to see if i can have a better >>>>>> results.Because of the "better" rendering was one of my key issues to >>>>>> update to the last version to try to keep up with the Apache >>> evolution, >>>>>> but after the project manager saw the result was really hard to >>> convince >>>>>> him that we are on the right path following the steps and evolution of >>>>>> Apache releases. >>>>>> I tried OpenSans and i have a better result but on the edges if we go >>> to >>>>>> detail we can see that is not perfect is still a little bit foggy! >>>>>> Another font suggestion is always welcome? >>>>>> @tom >>>>>> "- it took some experimenting with the various hinting options for >>>>>>>> the font, as well as embedding a few different fonts before we >>> found >>>> a >>>>>>>> combination that worked well." >>>>>> can you tell what combinations you did that worked out? >>>>>> Thanks,Miguel >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 09:19:11 -0700 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: blurry fonts >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can't find the email thread, but the answer I got was that there >>> is >>>> no >>>>>>> equivalent of gridFitType because the new font rendering algorithm >>> is >>>>>>> "better". IIRC, it is "better" because it employs some anti-aliasing >>>>>>> algorithm on all edges, not just one ones that are unlucky enough to >>>> not >>>>>>> fall on pixel boundaries, and doesn't mess with inter-character >>>> spacing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That said, several folks are unhappy with this algorithm. One >>>>>>> experiment >>>>>>> for you to try now that we have more version flexibility in Apache >>>> Flex >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> to set your player/air versions back to whatever it was in 4.1 or >>> even >>>>>>> 4.0. That might cause the player to select an older rendering >>>>>>> algorithm. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>> -Alex >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/3/13 7:24 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've always had problems with embedded fonts in 4.5.1 SDK. I've >>> tried >>>>>>> so >>>>>>>> much to overcome it. Seems no matter which version of Arial or >>>>>>> Helvetica >>>>>>>> I embed, the spark text always looks shorter and fat (e.g. blurry), >>>> and >>>>>>>> the mx text looks tall and skinny. The hinting options, while >>> having >>>> an >>>>>>>> effect, don't seem to correct this. If anyone has settings that >>> make >>>> an >>>>>>>> embedded font (Arial or Helvetica) look normal, I'd really like to >>>> try >>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Tom Chiverton" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 6:59:30 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: blurry fonts >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2013 14:54, Miguel Ferreira wrote: >>>>>>>>> I am finalizing a updated to my costumer from flex 4.1.0 to flex >>>>>>> 4.10.0 >>>>>>>>> and the fonts really look horrible. >>>>>>>> We had the same issue when migrating up from Adobe Flex 4.1 to >>> Apache >>>>>>>> 4.x - it took some experimenting with the various hinting options >>> for >>>>>>>> the font, as well as embedding a few different fonts before we >>> found >>>> a >>>>>>>> combination that worked well. >>>>>>>> I'd start by stripping out any relevant styles, then add in a >>>> specific >>>>>>>> embeded font, then have a look at the various hinting options >>>>>>> available. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom >
