A very nice summary; I see it the same.
And I took your words and started to reply in Quora ;-)

I agree: We should raise our voices wherever possible. At the end it is marketing (visibility) that influences decisions; not "the best technical solution".
We shouldn't forget about that.
So whoever finds some minutes: please participate and speak out at Quora, Twitter, stackoverflow... !


Am 25.04.2016 um 02:42 schrieb jude:
One place I get constant Flash and web questions is Quora.com. I might be the only one answering questions about Flash and Adobe Systems there. If anyone can help there that'd be great. It's a huge community and while less technical, it is the place ceo's, users and even software managers are learning about Flash, Flex, AIR and even Flex JS (you're welcome).

http://www.quora.com.

Here's an older version of Flash Clarification <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UYbS1t6FInwqC1luYceYLzXDnQJe3L0DSQFi7KlIa5g/> guide. It has links to statistics about Flash features, benefits, influence on history of the web, vulnerabilities compared to other companies, etc.

More recently, I've been realizing without a lot of proof, that the move to remove plugins is a backlash from HTML5 movement (their lives suck no surprise so they are seeing Flash as a patch for why browser vendors aren't upgrading and fixing the web). getting rid of flash would hopefully force browser vendors to make upgrades where flash was filling in. there's also some political agenda (getting rid of Flash plugin allows DRM plugins). It's not about removing plugins anymore as much as it's about controlling the freedom of speech and access to media (RIAA is behind this).

Twitter is also a place people need to defend Flash. Subscribe to a few news sites and you'll find them outright lying about plugins. It's unbelievable.

Companies are still using plugins, just their plugins. And if Apple can get rid of Flash in the browser it forces users to go to the app store to get the same thing they got for free now as an app. They are destroying the web for a money. Greed and fear is a funny terrible thing.

Google, MS, Firefox, Apple and others just see Flash as the leader and possibly want some of the advertising related income. There's a complete picture we aren't getting here of course.

Brendan Eich, briefly mentioned on twitter that Adobe went to him to see if he could get other manufacturers to adobe AS3 in the browser. Imagine how awesome that would have been. From how I interpreted it he was against it and discouraged it. Absolutely unbelievable. I'll try and find the thread if anyone is interested. Anyway, I agree. We HAVE to defend Flash and clean up the mess some media outlets and companies are spreading.



On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Karl KTA <k...@kingtideapps.com <mailto:k...@kingtideapps.com>> wrote:

    I'm not a Facebook fan and I am sure any one of us have developed
    and app that we can use for our own community.

    I have just joined the FB group that was posted just now on this
    thread.

    Flex needs us to be ambassadors, to encourage more coders and even
    better still - and more quickly AS2 coders back to the flock.

    I am happy to be part of a committee that leverages our combined
    resources and skills to bring coders back to the flock.

    I can be direct emailed at k...@kingtideapps.com
    <mailto:k...@kingtideapps.com>

    > On 23 Apr 2016, at 10:29 PM, Nemi <nemino...@gmail.com
    <mailto:nemino...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >
    > I agree. What I found out in last few years, when someone
    approaches me and
    > talks about Flex/AIR in like not having future, I always found
    that that
    > they haven't never build a larger project, and don't understand
    common
    > developer needs and the offer Flex gives you. Many still don't
    understand
    > Flash vs AIR, like Flash is not supported on that mobile phone
    so how can
    > you build apps for that platform? Source of their opinion is
    always the
    > same, they read it somewhere on news site. For Flex users, I
    found out it is
    > heavily used, and it seems to me that Flex developers are quiet
    and just use
    > it :)
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > View this message in context:
    
http://apache-flex-users.2333346.n4.nabble.com/Thanks-to-the-Team-tp12566p12588.html
    > Sent from the Apache Flex Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



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