On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 13:04 -0500, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote:
> On 02/12/2012 11:37 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:
> > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 09:31 -0500, webmaster for Kracked Press
> > Productions wrote:
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject:   Can't get Spanish distionary to stay selected
> >> Date:      Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:38:04 -0800
> >> From:      llusc...@sbcglobal.net
> >> To:        webmas...@krackedpress.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In LibreOffice 3.4. I've tried everything, read all the forums.
> >> Downloaded  the recommended Spanish oxt file from Extensions. Extension
> >> Manager shows it as installed. But when I try to set it as the
> >> dictionary for my document, the only place it stays checked for is
> >> Selection. I have Spanish (Mexican) set as my default language. When I
> >> try to establish Spanish as my SpellChecking language in Writing Aids,
> >> it does not stay selected. It appears in the selection box, then I
> >> click Close, but when I open the Writing Aids dialog again, it has
> >> reverted to English.
> >>
> >> AND, the spell checker doesn't check anyway -- just asks Start at top?
> >> then says everything is fine. In a document full of misspellings and
> >> gibberish.
> >>
> >> Help!
> >>
> >> Lenore
> >       Spell checking works based upon paragraph and character styles. You
> > have set Spanish (Mexican) as your language meaning that the Default
> > paragraph style in the Font tab has this selected as the dictionary used
> > to check spelling.
> >       If you want to use Spanish, you need to create a new paragraph
> > style with Spanish selected as the language in the Font tab. Then apply
> > the Spanish style to all the paragraphs containing Spanish. For
> > paragraphs containing Spanish (Mexican), apply the Default paragraph
> > style.
> >       More information on styles are found in the Getting Started with
> > Writer chapter of the Getting Started Guide and the styles chapters in
> > the Writer Guide.
> >
> > --Dan
> I am not sure why the person sent the two emails to me off the list.  If 
> the person was looking at LO from my portal site, they would have used 
> the different email address that was displayed there.
> 
> There is a point about setting the default language for spell checking 
> that is not English, when you are using English for your menu language.
> 
> There should be a way to keep it set to Spanish, French, or other 
> supported language, without it defaulting back to English until you tell 
> it to.  The "complex" way to spell check a non-English text with a 
> non-English dictionary that is installed and enabled, seems too complex 
> to me.  What happens if you write a text that was completely in English, 
> but you type a word or two that was in perfectly spelled French or 
> Spanish?  Now it seems that you have to check each bit of text with each 
> and every possible language that might be written within that text.  For 
> someone who writes in English but needs to reference words from other 
> languages that he/she has installed dictionaries for those other 
> languages, we need to have an easier way to help them spell check 
> his/her writing.  When I write some text for a document and know that 
> the word I just typed is correctly spelled, and it is not a "standard" 
> English word, I still get them underlined as misspelled.  Take the words 
> "Español" and "Français".  I have Spanish and French dictionaries 
> installed [which are locked so they cannot be uninstalled or modified], 
> I get the underline stating that I have misspelled then.  I have to run 
> the different languages through the spell checking system to get them to 
> work.  Also, With the language menu so filled with different versions of 
> English and French, it had only one space left for a version of Spanish 
> and no space left for German or other language.  The menu list for 
> languages is the language box that comes up when you press the "spelling 
> and grammar" icon in the "Standard Toolbar".  So with only the default 
> and locked dictionaries enabled, this language menu gives me the 
> following and no room for any more:
> 
> English - Australia, Canada, Erie, India, Nambia, South Africa, UK, USA, 
> and Zimbabwe.
> 
> French - Belgium, Canada, France, Luxembourg, Monaco, Switzerland.
> 
> Spanish - Spain.
> 
> I have a German dictionary installed and there is no listing so I can 
> use it to spell check German words.  I think it is due to the fact that 
> the "default and locked" English and French dictionaries have listed in 
> them ALL of these different version of those two languages and the menu 
> system is picking up on them and listing all of them in the limited menu 
> space.
> 
> Since I am using Ubuntu, I am not given the option of a "custom" 
> install, like Windows, so I can decide on the dictionaries I want 
> installed.  So that may be the reason I am getting this issue for lack 
> of menu space for the other installed languages.
> 
> But the issue for making it easier to spell check a non-English language 
> or keeping that language from switching back from your selected 
> document/paragraph/text language choice is in need of a looking in to.

     Sorry to repeat myself: It is all about paragraph and character
styles. All of these styles in the Font tab allow you to select the
language to be used. Paragraph styles affect the language for the entire
paragraph; character styles affect only the parts of a paragraph to
which the character style is applied.
     So a paragraph written in English but contains one or more words
written in another language has the English paragraph style applied to
the paragraph. The word or words of another language has the character
style for the other language applied to them.
     Further on styles and templates: If you write documents in which
you want the document's default language to be one of several of them,
for each of the languages, create a template for each language.
     Again,  Getting Started with Writer and the chapters on styles in
the Writer Guide will explain how to do this.
     Styles are very useful if you use Writer very much. The Writer
Guide is very useful as well since it describes how to use styles.

--Dan


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