On 12/19/2012 04:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
imo both, or all 3.
A few people that i share documents with have been persuaded into installing or
already have OpenOffice or LO. I have installed LO on all the machines at
work. People generally remain MS users but every once in a while they find
documents open in LO.
My own documents on the office network are in ODF and when i get time to update
internal documents i try to switch them to ODF if there is time and if the
documents are likely to be used again soon. It's usually best done by starting a
fresh document and copy&pasting unformattted text in and then reformatting.
People often make a hopeless mess and do weird things quite erratically. A fresh
start helps normalise them and since they are done on LO less craziness jumps in
randomly.
When i need to share with people outside the office i use "Save As ..." to create a
"98/2000/Xp" (= .doc) and if i have time i create a Pdf for them. It doesn't take long
and often impresses people. If they need a printable version i make the Pdf with lossless
compression.
The "track changes" thing is far too advanced for most office workers i know
of. When i tried to get people into it they complained that all the red crossings out
and different colours was all toooo confusing.
I have never seen anyone use this feature in MSO (or LO). IMHO most
people find the it confusing or annoying. What seemed to work best for
most collaborative documents was to have one person be responsible for
final edits after getting input from all the others and the other
participants be responsible for a section of the document.
Generally i think bug-reports are worked on to make LO better in it's own right
but that a LOT of effort goes into trying to pander to the needs of MS users
that people share with. Hopefully as LO usage continues to increase
exponentially it continues to become easier to share ODFs. Then the need to
try to follow MS's whims will decrease naturally.
I still think it's more important to get LO out there first, or AOO or any
other program that uses ODF as it's native format. ODF uptake is 2nd, for me.
It seems to be working well that way, for me.
It would be interesting to hear other people's thoughts or experiences.
Regards from
Tom :)
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Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 8:26
Subject: [libreoffice-users] record changes weakness compared to m$
Readers,
Have done a bug report on both LO and AOO, about the 'changes' feature
of the word processor. (It's excellent that there are multiple
products available to produce ODF files, but I digress). There are
many bugs concerning this feature, which is surprising.
In the typical collaborative environment, the superior functionality
of m$ "track changes" makes the possibility to use LO unrealistic.
Suppose LO is used to create an original odt document (the preferred
option of course). When that file is distributed to m$ users, the
functionality of 'changes' in LO will probably be considered to be
weak and people will be justified to ask: "please send an m$ word
document".
What is the experience of others distributing odt documents to m$ users?
Alternatively, the "realpolitik" option is to use LO to create an m$
word document, but as commented before, such an option merely
perpetuates the proliferation of m$ at the direct cost to odf.
Which leads to the next question: is the priority to improve the
feature of LO such that 'changes' in odt format is superior to 'track
changes' in m$ and that when odt documents are distributed, m$ users
can perform simple tasks such as recording document changes?
Or is the priority for LO to be compatible with m$, so that m$ word
continues to be the de facto standard?
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