but the computer's page is different from the printed page  ;-)

       BTW - Brian, I think your explanation was very good.



On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Hi :)
> Yes, the button probably should say "Screen down" instead of page down for
> most uses of the button and only say "Page down" for those rare cases where
> it really does mean a page.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
> PS blimey a short answer for once!!  lol
>
>
>
>
> >
> > From: Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>
> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013, 15:15
> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] page down in word processors
> >
> >At 09:35 15/02/2013 -0500, Eric Beversluis wrote:
> >> Something I've never figured out--and seems true of LO/OO as well as M$
> Word: When reading through a document, one hits 'PgDn', but one doesn't get
> a new page--it only scrolls down some seemingly arbitrary number of lines.
> One has to scan the new screen to see what one left off reading and one may
> only have gotten a half page of new reading for the effort.
> >>
> >> Maybe I'm spoiled by e-readers. But maybe, even after all these years,
> I haven't figured out how to do this correctly in a word processor.
> >
> >I think you are missing the different functions of the two sorts of
> software.  E-readers are what they say they are: readers.  In other words,
> their users are using them to read documents.  More than that, in general
> they will be reading the documents sequentially: when they get to the end
> of one page, they will next want to see the next page.  And the only sense
> of "page" is as much as fills the screen of the display device.
> >
> >Word processors are quite different.  In general, they are still fixated
> on printing the final document: the page size is the format of the eventual
> supposed printed version, not necessarily (and not usually) the size and
> format of the screen used for display.  People usually choose settings that
> display less than a printed page of a document; if you were looking at such
> a screenful and then moved down a full page, you would unhelpfully have
> missed part of the text.
> >
> >But the bigger point is that a word processor is designed for editing,
> not reading.  If you are editing at one point in a document and you now
> need to move down to a point currently off your screen image, it is not at
> all obvious - quite unlikely, in fact - that you would want to move to a
> following page.  It is much more likely that you would want to be able to
> see some part of the document further down but whilst also still seeing the
> part on which you had just been working.
> >
> >The original model, then, is that no-one would read documents on screen
> but only from hard copy.  It is interesting that software has been moving
> towards servicing screen reading, albeit rather slowly.  Microsoft
> Powerpoint allows you to save a presentation as a "slide show", in which
> case it opens for any recipient as for display, not for further editing.
> Microsoft Word has a reading mode, which displays screenfuls - not
> necessarily in the original layout - and in which your page down function
> works as you want.  There is also a freeware Word Viewer available from
> Microsoft, intended for users without Microsoft Word installed.  Again,
> since this is a reader and not an editor, it responds to page down requests
> by moving down a screenful.  Oh, and try opening a read-only file with
> LibreOffice Writer: I think you'll find that it will now treat "page down"
> differently and move down (almost) a screenful.
> >
> >Should word processing and similar software provide an explicit reading
> mode for use in reading, not editing, documents?  Possibly.  Meanwhile, if
> you want something close to this behaviour in Writer, here's your
> workaround: just click the Edit File button in the Standard toolbar to
> toggle on this behaviour.
> >
> >I trust this helps.
> >
> >Brian Barker
> >
>

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