Hi :) +1 Looks like they get a lot of snow Regards from Tom :)
>________________________________ > From: Andrew Brown <andre...@icon.co.za> >To: Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com> >Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Tuesday, 6 August 2013, 20:28 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: start up speed > > >Hi Ken > >Interesting, I'll need to do some more intense reading of the web page, >a nice find. The chart is a bit congested, and they don't seem to cover >the freeware versions of the payware versions on the chart, and the ones >I mentioned below. It would be interesting to see where they fare >against MS's free tools at 90%. Don't get me wrong I'm no fan of MS in >any way, but at least their built-in and add-on security products cannot >be thumb-nosed at. I personally use Kapsersky Pure 3.0 for all >freestanding customer and personal / home PC's and Kaspersky ES >(Endpoint Security) or TS (Total Security) for my bigger stuff and >client servers. > >And as can be seen those that seems to score high faired only one test >before it looks like they failed (all in red text), so this is not good, >brands to avoid, even if they look good as no.1 on paper. Hype, as I say >bull???? baffles brains. > >Thanks for this link. I like going over stuff like this. > >Andrew Brown > >On 06/08/2013 08:54 PM, Ken Springer wrote: >> Andrew, >> >> Just interested in your comments/thoughts on this site: >> >> http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/rap-index.xml >> >> On 8/6/13 12:05 PM, Andrew Brown wrote: >>> Hi Tom >>> >>> You are on track, but one thing I will give in defence of freeware >>> malware protection, is MS Security Essentials. It along with the MS >>> firewall built in and Windows Defender built in and activated fully with >>> MSSE installed, make for a not bad system. And you are correct, MS I am >>> sure are fully aware of their exploitable code/bugs/weaknesses, not >>> necessary found by themselves, but by very clever honest and dishonest >>> malware practitioners out there. With personal experience, usage and >>> fighting a good fight, my trust of AVG has waned big time, and MSSE is >>> now top, as I said for freeware. One must remember freeware tools are >>> not strong with active protection and scanning of your system, plugged >>> in devices and email, this is where MSSE does excel. >>> >>> In this order, I mention a Linux scanner that is now ported to MS, as >>> it's not bad and totally opensource. >>> >>> Freeware >>> 1. MSSE >>> 2. Avast >>> 3. ClamAV for Windows >>> >>> For payware there is only two, by continuous test, both personal, >>> business and enterprize, and without starting a flame war >>> >>> Kaspersky >>> ESET Nod32 >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Andrew Brown >>> >>> On 06/08/2013 04:30 PM, Tom Davies wrote: >>>> Hi :) >>>> Good point. I only had the anti-malware stuff running. None of the >>>> usual other windows open. >>>> >>>> On Windows machines i typically have 2 running. >>>> 1. Microsoft Security Essentials, the one that kinda forces it's >>>> way onto your system through automatic updates and stuff even if you >>>> don't want it >>>> 2. A free one. Usually AVG in the company where i kinda work. In >>>> a different place i might be using a different one but AVG seems >>>> reasonably ok to me. >>>> >>>> On machines that are desperately slow running like that i switch off >>>> one or the other. Usually the MS one because i still don't >>>> completely trust it yet. >>>> >>>> The number 1 job of any malware has to be to either knock-out the >>>> anti-malware stuff or find a way to permanently bypass it without >>>> raising any alarms. So anti-malware stuff needs to think in a very >>>> different way from whatever in-built security might be around. I >>>> don't have any confidence in MS being able to do that. I think a >>>> 3rd party program is more likely to have different structures. On >>>> the other hand MS might have more of an idea where all their most >>>> well-known flaws are and might be able to structure their one to >>>> deal with likely threats. So, who knows which is going to be best >>>> in the next years or so. >>>> >>>> Regards from >>>> Tom :) >> >> <snip> >> >> > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
