On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 16:39 -0500, Doug wrote: > On 11/03/2013 02:06 PM, Upscope wrote: > > On Saturday, November 02, 2013 12:46:43 PM Urmas wrote: > >> "Les Howell": > >> > >> Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft > >> Office? > >> > >> Microsoft mostly. > >> > > /snip/ > > > Thats not totally correct if I remember right. Office started out as a > > joint project between IBM and Microsoft for the original PC. There was a > > differnet of directions and MS wnd IBM went there own ways. MS took a > > lot of the joint developemt (Stole) with them. we used to use Wordstar > > on or PC's. > > > > Russ > > > > It wasn't originally MS Office, it was just MS Word. It ran on DOS, > just like WordStar, but it had some basic word-processing functions > listed at the bottom, and it worked with a mouse, if I recall, which > WordStar did not. WordStar required a bunch of ctrl-x functions, where > x was some keyboard letter. This was, I believe, derived from > Teletype terminal days, where some k/b functions we expect, even some > found on a typewriter, didn't exist. Functions on a modern k/b, like > the up/down/left/right arrows were implemented by ctrl-x. Even > backspace, which doesn't exist on a teletype machine--ctrl-h will > do it. Even on a few programs today, but not T/Bird--I just tried! > I think Word was the first word processor to use a mouse, but I could > be wrong. After memorizing all the control functions in WordStar, > I stayed with it for quite a while, until WordPerfect came out. > I still won't use Word--WP is better, imho. I wish it were still > available for Linux. > > --doug > > -- > Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. > --A.M.Greeley > Actually Wordstar used control-J to access various functions. It was designed that way to eliminate the need to take your hands off the home row. If you were proficient with Wordstar and a touch typist, you were about 10-15% percent faster than someone using Word. Many newspaper reporters used it just for that reason. Microsoft hated the competition and so captured the control-J function (which happens to be a line feed.) This meant that the Windows systems would not run Wordstar.
Wordstar also had WYSIWYG using these sequences to display the various superscript, and subscript and other characters, including the math characters and of course the nice 1/2 and 1/4 symbols as well. Wordstar came with Mailmerge and was a wonderful package for people doing newsletters or other mass mail programs. I hated that microsoft trapped the control J sequence and made it impossible to use Wordstar. The Wordstar team worked out a new interface, but just as they released it, Microsoft made another low level change to the windows interface that made the Wordstar team have to create yet another work around, missing the market window. And losing the ability to not have to use a mouse for the 80% composting task. Word was similar to another word processing program, but I can no longer remember its name. The spreadsheet was a purchase, which Microsoft "reengineered" and added some features and removed some to make it compatible with their GUI, and they also changed the storage style, which originally was all text based. I don't remember all the changes now. I used that original spreadsheet, It was called supercalc or something like that. Personally I wish Wordstar was still available, before the MOUSE ruined touch typing. But word processors are subject to the whims of taste. I also did some formal materials for marketing. I used a Macintosh with a simple text editor and a program called Ready, Set, Go which was a separate typesetting program, which included the ability to embed 3 to 6 layer color graphics with a WYSIWYG on a Macintosh, but that was in the 1987 time frame I think. The calendar application was similar to the calendar with events that was part of the Wordstar package as well, but Microsoft embedded theirs into Outlook about 1990 something. Wordstar was a full suite if you got all the options, and could do many things that Word didn't begin to accomplish until about 1995. The reason I brought this up is because wordprocessing has been around a very long time. Unix had some nice packages prior to 1984, and I used some of them while I was still in the Navy. But with the demise of Wordstar, I just gave up and started using the mouse. The mouse makes the job both faster to learn and much slower to use, but that seems to be the way of the world. We all have our preferences. Regards, Les H -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted