Bruce, Virgil,

On 22 mai 2014 05:40:39 CEST, Bruce Byfield <bbyfi...@axion.net> wrote:
>On Wednesday 21 May 2014 10:22:41 PM Dan Lewis wrote:
>> On 05/21/2014 03:16 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote:
>> > If you've done much work positioning graphics in text, then you
>know how
>> > difficult it can be to make sure that the graphics stay in place.
>In the
>> > past, many experts have come up with recommendations about the best
>> > settings to use, but these suggestions either don't work if you try
>to
>> > export to another format or else have been made obsolete by changes
>to
>> > the program over the year.
>> > 
>> > In preparation for my upcoming book on OpenOffice/LibreOffice, I'm
>hoping
>> > to solve this  problem once and for all. Could anyone who is
>interested
>> > reproduce the two methods below, then try to break them by copying
>and
>> > pasting, adding text around the graphics, and anything else you can
>think
>> > of? I would be very interested in hearing results, especially on
>> > platforms other than Linux.
>> > 
>> > Method #1: Right-click on a graphic, and select Picture -> Options
>->
>> > Protect _> Position and Size.
>> > 
>> > Method #2:
>> > 
>> > 1. Turn off auto-caption in Tools > Options
>> > 
>> > 2. Create table with 1 column, 2 rows. Set space above and below.
>Do not
>> > allow to splilt across page or column, or keep with next paragraph,
>do
>> > not create heading row.
>> > 
>> > 3. Set space above and below table (multiple of line height)
>> > 
>> > 4. Place picture in 1st row. If you have trouble placing it in a
>cell,
>> > space down in the cell a few times before inserting the picture.
>> > 
>> > 5. Position picture: either move using alignment or, if you want an
>> > indentation from the left, adjust from right, subtracting space
>from the
>> > total width of the table.
>> > 
>> > 6. Add caption in second row. If graphic is indented, you will need
>to
>> > create a caption paragraph style with an indent.
>> > 
>> > 7. In table context menu, unselect Table Boundaries. For
>convenience, you
>> > may want to unselect only before you print.
>> > 
>> > Thanks to anyone whose curiosity or need encourages them to join
>the
>> > experiment.
>> 
>>       I don't have problems with placing graphics where I want them,
>but
>> then again, I do not wrap any text around them. Perhaps this is the
>problem?
>> I have a file created by LibreOffice 4.1.6 and 4.2.4 that has 73
>graphics
>> and 4 images. I have no problem keeping them where I put them. The
>name of
>> the file is BG4204Forms20140501.odt. It is available for download
>> athttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation. You will need to
>> scroll down to the Base Guide section of this web page.
>>       Another thought that may or may not have anything to do with
>the
>> problem. These are the settings that I use in Tools > Options >
>Memory:
>> Undo steps: 20, Graphics cache Use for LibreOffice 252MB, Memory per
>> object 2.0MB, Remove from memory after 1:00 (h:m), number of objects
>252.
>>       When inserting a graphic, the following steps are used:
>> 1. Create a paragraph style for the frames with the alignment
>centered
>> and any other style properties needed.
>> 2 Create an empty paragraph.
>> 3. Create a frame anchored to this paragraph
>> 4. Anchor the frame as a character
>> 5. Insert the caption in the bottom of the frame.
>> 6. Insert the graphic in the frame
>> 7. Anchor the graphic as a character).
>> 
>>       Over the past 10 years or more I have been doing this without
>any
>> problems in any of the chapters I have written for the ODFAuthors
>group.
>>       There is one more thing that I do that automates several of
>these
>> steps: I use AutoText. It creates the frame with steps 1, 3, 4, and
>5.
>> This just leaves me to create an empty paragraph, insert the graphic,
>> and anchor it as a character. In addition, I also resize the frame if
>I
>> think it needs it.
>> 
>
>Thanks for your input. What operating system are you using?
>
>I've tried the technique you mention, but for me (and many others), it
>doesn't 
>seem to work. I don't think that wrapping the text has anything to do
>with the 
>problem, because, if anything, graphics that don't have any wrap tend
>to stray 
>more often than those that do.
>
>However, the memory settings may have an effect, so I'm going to do
>some 
>experiments. Perhaps the failure arises because not enough memory is
>allocated 
>for large graphics?


While other tools may be used for this it should be quite possible to achieve 
the same result with LibreOffice writer. Which suggests that a bug report is in 
order. Mind filing one?

Thanks, 

Charles. 


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