Hi :) Oops!! Sorry for the rant! Also the tpyos in the 5th paragraph! (4th from the end!). I should have deleted some of it (or the whole email tbh) down to;
" Base neatly avoids ALL that nightmare by allowing database-designers to use Writer or Calc to create "Reports" or "Forms" so that people who are not into building and designing databases are safely in familiar programs/modules. " Apols and regards from Tom :) On 3 March 2015 at 16:01, Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi :) > I don't see this thread as having been entirely negative at all! > > Base is pretty fantastic despite having so few devs and being the most > unpopular module/program to work on out of the whole suite. The devs who > are working on it are fantastic and heroic imo. > > The only real problems are when people try to use Base in the way they > would use Access. Access does quite a lot of very dodgy things that most > database programs steer well away from. For a start having the front-end > and the back-end as 1 file is just asking for trouble for reasons which i > am not quite clear on but has been described in previous threads. My pet > hate is that normal users are presented with the unfamiliar interface. So > even if they just want to browse through records they kinda need training > and that training usually involves just how to design, create and build a > new database rather just how to flick through records. > > Even with training it is all to easy for normal users to accidentally (or > otherwise) make a hideous mess of things. The "contacts" database at my > work-place was such a hideous mess that even printing address labels was > practically impossible. I didn't have time to go through all the hundreds > of badly named Queries to make any sense of them so i was never sure which > could be deleted and which were crucial. So i had to make yet another new > one in order to avoid getting bogged down for days in a fairly simple > task. When i got back to the database a week later someone had renamed my > Query and the Report so i had to do a bit of detective work to find them > again. Nowadays no-one uses that database at all. The company has lost > track of tons of contacts who may or may not have been useful. Nowadays we > use a simple csv to track only the email addresses and we no longer do > mail-outs at all. > > > Base neatly avoid ALL that can be neatly avoided by using Writer or Calc > to create "Reports" or "Forms" so that people who are not into building and > designing databases are safely in familiar programs/modules. > > So normal users can still do simple edits, such as correcting spellings or > changing the company letterhead and such-like but they do so in a familiar > environment without having to learn tons of stuff they will probably never > need. They can even create new documents based on the existing ones. > > At no point would they accidentally find themselves in "Desgn" views or > accidentally creating Queries. > > So for me Base, Kexi and pretty much everything non-Microsoft has huge > time-saving advantages! > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > On 3 March 2015 at 15:06, Peter Goggin <petergog...@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> Much of the e-mails on Base have focussed on negative aspects. It is >> worth remembering that for moderate size data bases (a few thousand >> records, a dozen tables) it is perfectly adequate. I have now converted >> all of my data ase applications for MS Access to run on Base with its >> internal data base. All of them perform better than they did using MS >> Access. I would not regard either Base or Access as suitable for a large >> multiuser data base application. The only linux based large data base I >> have developed I used MySQL with a web based front end using php to >> interface to the data base. >> >> Regards >> >> >> Peter Goggin >> >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
