Yes and I did not mean to skip and forget all of the other folks who contributed
to what we know today as Grid Engine.

If you dig far back enough and before it was CODINE, I am sure it started
with someone writing some home grown code.

The main point remains however.  Adaptive computing is an excellent example
of what may likely happen and I hope I am proven wrong.

Also and this is a subjective issue depending on how deep your company pockets
are, the price for the commercial Grid Engine version is amazingly $high$,
specially for educational sites where every penny counts.

Joseph



On 10/23/2013 03:38 PM, ChrisDag wrote:

Accidental or intentional that statement trivializes significant efforts
of lots of people, many of whom were with Grid Engine pre-Sun
Microsystems back when it was called CODINE. The open source community
improved and enhanced the product, these people built the damn thing.

Missing from the above characterization is "...hiring almost the entire
grid engine development team (and now all of the support engineers) and
continuing to ensure that there is a stable of active people being paid
to work on it full time ..." Have you looked deep into the codebase? The
learning curve is pretty extreme which can be a major obstacle to long
term success of an OSS effort.

The open source forks are doing well - I was worried that they'd be
'bugfix only' but there is real enhancement work happening. The major
risk in my mind is that I suspect the number of serious active
committers is very small.

I see/deploy numerous Grid Engine systems every year for various people
and entities. I'd say that maybe 80% of them use OGS or SoGE but the
remaining 20% use the commercial flavor and are quite happy. Univa's
roadshows and roadmaps have been impressive enough that I suspect they
will continue to do well with GE.

I'm personally very glad that both options exist and hope this situation
continues.

Sorry for being long winded. My TL/DR summary:

  - I'm glad both options exist
  - I'm glad all of the various forks are doing well
  - I'm not willing to assume Evil on behalf of Univa. I respect both the
  management and the engineers and the worst they've ever done to me was
annoy me a few years back when some of their marketing and PR got a
little over aggressive

-dag




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