I wasn't are of the geo:is3D property myself but is is apparently in Req 12
of the final GeoSPARQL release V1.0

https://portal.ogc.org/files/?artifact_id=44722

maybe it's only in the requirements.



On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 8:24 PM Greg <galbis...@mail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The WKT parser supports XY, XYZ, XYM, and XYZM coordinate notations. The
> presence of dimensions beyond XY should not have an impact on the
> geomtery being used in spatial relation or other queries. The triples
> exist in the graph and will be processed, but the GeoSPARQL 1.0 is 2D
> only so the extra dimensions are not used in calculations.
>
> I'm not aware of an 'is3D' property in the v1.0 spec as this can be
> tested using the 'geo:coordinateDimension' (either 2, 3, or 4 - i.e. XY,
> XYZ, XYM and XYZM) and/or 'geo:spatialDimension' (either 2 or 3 - i.e.
> XY and XYM or XYZ and XYZM) properties of geo:Geometry (Section 8.4).
> These values are inferred in the Jena implementation and do not need to
> asserted to be accessed.
>
> The standard also states that invalid geometry literals are to be
> treated as errors, hence the 'DatatypeFormatException'.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
> On 11/12/2021 19:33, Marco Neumann wrote:
> > BTW this (the implementation of the property function) would be a great
> > project for members in the community to make a contribution to the Jena
> > project and the geosparql modul in particular.  I would think that this
> > could be a well manageable task for an experienced java developer with an
> > interest in geospatial data processing.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 6:19 PM Marco Neumann <marco.neum...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> That said, I am just looking at the code base and I think we are
> missing a
> >> property function for is3D which is mentioned in the  v1.0 spec.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 5:14 PM Marco Neumann <marco.neum...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> good to see some discussion around this at GeoSPARQL 1.1. But from
> what I
> >>> can see it is still in an early phase with regards to 3D.
> >>>
> >>> The name geosparql++ was just used  as a flag to indicate to the user
> >>> that we are operating outside of the realm of OGC geosparql 1.0 spec.
> >>>
> >>> similar to what we do with sparql vs arq syntax
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 5:01 PM Lorenz Buehmann <
> >>> buehm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It's on the way with GeoSPARQL 1.1, isn't it? At least there are
> tickets
> >>>> related to it, e.g. [1] and many functions will be stated to work on
> 3D
> >>>> as well [2]
> >>>>
> >>>>> I personally think we should go beyond GeoSPARQL soon with Jena to
> >>>> provide
> >>>>> users with more advanced features. Possibly flag it as geosparql++ or
> >>>> the
> >>>>> like.
> >>>> You mean because there was already this GeoSPARQL+ thing from Steffen
> >>>> Staab group with support for rasterized data? It's a shame that those
> >>>> stuff does never make it into the main public projects they are based
> >>>> on. What a waste of resources and time (from my point of view)
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] https://github.com/opengeospatial/ogc-geosparql/issues/238
> >>>> [2]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> https://opengeospatial.github.io/ogc-geosparql/geosparql11/spec.html#_b_1_functions_summary_table
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11.12.21 17:39, Marco Neumann wrote:
> >>>>> That's correct Jean-Marc, no comma.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And yes the OGC GeoSPARQL spec is not supporting 3D access methods.
> >>>> And if
> >>>>> you record a third dimension, which is of course possible, it will be
> >>>>> ignored in Jena. Unfortunately the entire record will be. We could
> >>>> record
> >>>>> this as a bug but it's really not supported at the moment by the
> spec.
> >>>> Many
> >>>>> of the spatial functions in the OGC GeoSPARQL spec operate with a 2D
> >>>>> reference system.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I personally think we should go beyond GeoSPARQL soon with Jena to
> >>>> provide
> >>>>> users with more advanced features. Possibly flag it as geosparql++ or
> >>>> the
> >>>>> like.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>> Marco
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 4:15 PM Jean-Marc Vanel <
> >>>> jeanmarc.va...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I fixed the WKT not having the right datatype, as said before; here
> >>>> are the
> >>>>>> SPARQL used to check and fix:
> >>>>>> COUNT-spatial-wkt-as-string.rq
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> https://github.com/jmvanel/semantic_forms/blob/master/sparql/COUNT-spatial-wkt-as-string.rq
> >>>>>> FIX-spatial-wkt-as-string.upd.rq
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> https://github.com/jmvanel/semantic_forms/blob/master/sparql/FIX-spatial-wkt-as-string.upd.rq
> >>>>>> Now this is not the end of the road . Another imperfect data causing
> >>>>>> geosparql initialization to fail :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Exception: Build WKT Geometry Exception - Type: point, Coordinates:
> >>>>>> (2.353821,48.83399,0). Index 1 out of bounds for length 1*
> >>>>>> 2021-12-05T15:48:54.166Z
> [application-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-5]
> >>>>>> ERROR jena -     Exception class:class
> >>>>>> org.apache.jena.datatypes.DatatypeFormatException
> >>>>>> 2021-12-05T15:48:54.167Z
> [application-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-5]
> >>>>>> ERROR jena -     Exception
> >>>>>> org.apache.jena.datatypes.DatatypeFormatException: Build WKT
> Geometry
> >>>>>> Exception - Type: point, Coordinates: (2.353821,48.83399,0). Index 1
> >>>> out of
> >>>>>> bounds for length 1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.parsers.wkt.WKTReader.buildGeometry(WKTReader.java:141)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.parsers.wkt.WKTReader.<init>(WKTReader.java:50)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.parsers.wkt.WKTReader.extract(WKTReader.java:292)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.datatype.WKTDatatype.read(WKTDatatype.java:89)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.index.GeometryLiteralIndex.retrieveMemoryIndex(GeometryLiteralIndex.java:69)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.index.GeometryLiteralIndex.retrieve(GeometryLiteralIndex.java:51)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.datatype.GeometryDatatype.parse(GeometryDatatype.java:57)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.GeometryWrapper.extract(GeometryWrapper.java:1176)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.GeometryWrapper.extract(GeometryWrapper.java:1137)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.GeometryWrapper.extract(GeometryWrapper.java:1147)
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.configuration.ModeSRS.search(ModeSRS.java:61)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.configuration.GeoSPARQLOperations.findModeSRS(GeoSPARQLOperations.java:520)
> >>>>>> Is it because the WKT separator should be a space instead of a
> comma,
> >>>> or
> >>>>>> because 3D is not allowed ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jean-Marc Vanel
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> http://semantic-forms.cc:9112/display?displayuri=http://jmvanel.free.fr/jmv.rdf%23me
> >>>>>> +33
> >>>>>> (0)6 89 16 29 52
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Le dim. 5 déc. 2021 à 13:03, Jean-Marc Vanel <
> >>>> jeanmarc.va...@gmail.com> a
> >>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> After looking at this code, failing line in bold:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>
> jena-geosparql/src/main/java/org/apache/jena/geosparql/configuration/ModeSRS.java
> >>>>
> https://github.com/apache/jena/blob/main/jena-geosparql/src/main/java/org/apache/jena/geosparql/configuration/ModeSRS.java
> >>>>>>>           ExtendedIterator<RDFNode> nodeIter =
> >>>>>>> model.listObjectsOfProperty(Geo.HAS_SERIALIZATION_PROP);
> >>>>>>>           boolean isGeometryLiteralsFound = nodeIter.hasNext();
> >>>>>>>           if (!isGeometryLiteralsFound) {
> >>>>>>>               NodeIterator wktNodeIter =
> >>>>>>> model.listObjectsOfProperty(Geo.AS_WKT_PROP);
> >>>>>>>               NodeIterator gmlNodeIter =
> >>>>>>> model.listObjectsOfProperty(Geo.AS_GML_PROP);
> >>>>>>>               nodeIter = wktNodeIter.andThen(gmlNodeIter);
> >>>>>>>           }
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>           while (nodeIter.hasNext()) {
> >>>>>>>               RDFNode node = nodeIter.next();
> >>>>>>>               if (node.isLiteral()) {
> >>>>>>> *                GeometryWrapper geometryWrapper =
> >>>>>>> GeometryWrapper.extract(node.asLiteral());*
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I did SELECT queries to try to understand what is wrong .
> >>>>>>> It appears that these triples are not present:
> >>>>>>> ?S <http://www.opengis.net/ont/geosparql#hasSerialization> ?O .
> >>>>>>> ?S <http://www.opengis.net/ont/geosparql#asGML> ?O .
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> BUT, there is a bunch of these triples:
> >>>>>>> ?S <http://www.opengis.net/ont/geosparql#asWKT> ?O .
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here is one example of the object values:
> >>>>>>> "POINT(-4.189911,54.880557,0)"
> >>>>>>> I probably imported them by hacking a JSON API as JSON-LD , I have
> to
> >>>>>>> check my journals ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Looking at the OGC GeoSPARQL standard, I saw that the WKT strings
> >>>> should
> >>>>>>> have this datatype :
> >>>>>>> http://www.opengis.net/ont/geosparql#wktLiteral
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So I can make a SPARQL update to FIX my data .
> >>>>>>> But maybe Jena GeoSPARQL could be forgiving about the string
> >>>> datatype for
> >>>>>>> WKT data .
> >>>>>>> And the error message should be more explicit ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks Andy for the quick answer.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jean-Marc Vanel
> >>>>>>> <
> >>>>
> http://semantic-forms.cc:9112/display?displayuri=http://jmvanel.free.fr/jmv.rdf%23me
> >>>>>> +33
> >>>>>>> (0)6 89 16 29 52
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Le dim. 5 déc. 2021 à 11:52, Jean-Marc Vanel <
> >>>> jeanmarc.va...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> After having fixed bad data in the TDB database (latitude is
> >>>> present but
> >>>>>>>> not longitude, coordinates as strings , see issue
> >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-2202 ),
> >>>>>>>> there is an exception, probably related to the database content.
> >>>>>>>> Here is the log:
> >>>>>>>> Dec 05, 2021 9:57:33 AM
> >>>>>>>> org.apache.sis.referencing.factory.sql.EPSGFactory <init>
> >>>>>>>> WARNING: The “SIS_DATA” environment variable is not set.
> >>>>>>>> 2021-12-05T09:57:33.940Z
> >>>> [application-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-9]
> >>>>>>>> INFO  jena - SpatialIndex: isFunctionRegistered true
> >>>>>>>> 2021-12-05T09:57:33.941Z
> >>>> [application-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-9]
> >>>>>>>> INFO  jena - Before setupSpatialIndex
> >>>>>>>> 2021-12-05T09:57:33.948Z
> >>>> [application-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-9]
> >>>>>>>> INFO  o.a.j.g.c.GeoSPARQLOperations - Find Mode SRS - Started
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And here is the exception:
> >>>>>>>> *Exception: Unrecognised Geometry Datatype:
> >>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string> Ensure that Datatype is
> >>>>>> extending
> >>>>>>>> GeometryDatatype.*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.datatype.GeometryDatatype.get(GeometryDatatype.java:78)
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.datatype.GeometryDatatype.get(GeometryDatatype.java:86)
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.GeometryWrapper.extract(GeometryWrapper.java:1175)
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.GeometryWrapper.extract(GeometryWrapper.java:1137)
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.GeometryWrapper.extract(GeometryWrapper.java:1147)
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.configuration.ModeSRS.search(ModeSRS.java:61)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.configuration.GeoSPARQLOperations.findModeSRS(GeoSPARQLOperations.java:520)
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.spatial.SpatialIndex.buildSpatialIndex(SpatialIndex.java:336)
> >>>>
> org.apache.jena.geosparql.configuration.GeoSPARQLConfig.setupSpatialIndex(GeoSPARQLConfig.java:263)
> >>>>
> deductions.runtime.jena.RDFStoreLocalJenaProviderObject$.createDatabase(RDFStoreLocalJenaProvider.scala:175)
> >>>>>>>> I use the latest Jena release 4.2.0 . Note that there is no
> trouble
> >>>> on
> >>>>>> my
> >>>>>>>> development machine, only on the production site , although the
> >>>> source
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>> the same .
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jean-Marc Vanel
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Marco Neumann
> >>> KONA
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Marco Neumann
> >> KONA
> >>
> >>
>


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