Yep to correct IP. On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Dino Edwards <dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net > wrote:
> To the correct ip of the ciphermail server? Obviously something is wrong > with the spf or dns or both. > > I can't help much be because you are not providing real data. > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Paul Bronson [signaldevelo...@gmail.com] > *Received:* Tuesday, 27 Jun 2017, 4:03PM > *To:* Dino Edwards [dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net] > *CC:* Martijn Brinkers [mart...@ciphermail.com]; users@lists.djigzo.com [ > users@lists.djigzo.com] > *Subject:* Re: [Djigzo users] Servers wont talk to me! > > Yep... > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Dino Edwards < > dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net> wrote: > >> Is the hostname ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com resolvable to >> the outside world? >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:50 PM >> *To:* Dino Edwards <dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net> >> *Cc:* Martijn Brinkers <mart...@ciphermail.com>; users@lists.djigzo.com >> *Subject:* Re: [Djigzo users] Servers wont talk to me! >> >> >> >> Yes, I seen this too, but here is the SFP for that domain: >> >> >> >> v=spf1 include:ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com include: >> mail.themailserver.com -all >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Dino Edwards < >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net> wrote: >> >> It’s not ideal but here’s what I noticed right away: >> >> >> >> spf=permerror (google.com: permanent error in processing during lookup >> of cop...@themailserver.com: ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com not >> found) >> >> >> >> your SPF record doesn’t seem to be correct. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:42 PM >> *To:* Dino Edwards <dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>; Martijn Brinkers < >> mart...@ciphermail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [Djigzo users] Servers wont talk to me! >> >> >> >> Hi Dino, >> >> >> >> I sent a test to my gmail account. I blocked out some items if you don't >> mind. Mail-gateway is the ciphermail server. Also FYI SFP records are >> perfect, one of the first things I checked. >> >> >> >> >> >> Legend: >> >> >> >> p...@personalgmail.com = My personal gmail account >> >> cop...@themailserver.com = A user on the email server (before it gets >> sent via relayhost to cipermail server) >> >> 100.100.100.100 = ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Delivered-To: p...@personalgmail.com >> >> Received: by 10.100.151.131 with SMTP id q3csp1477339pja; >> >> Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:32:56 -0700 (PDT) >> >> X-Received: by 10.237.38.33 with SMTP id z30mr8715902qtc.105.1498591976 >> 746; >> >> Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:32:56 -0700 (PDT) >> >> ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1498591976; cv=none; >> >> d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; >> >> b=zq9YrJUK0t+9/MMkruGu502L4/BxtDFW3DttYouYFgmW2An7l1l3wOZRQN >> 6FduWhN >> >> gkawirHqLKlmosfryJucbJ7cSrCK1tPCgHMKlaXOSMsqqkIdoRO+MSZG7lK >> cgpL7Rd4j >> >> tGBmHMPIUUZPOZEQ7Oaki/aI8sHpBGIDOb5Zw9pehSvMcaco6oMlp0rdyJm >> bCodc0zyT >> >> G/CYFQr6p52Lqs0P+tD8ilc3ZmaOri9G1IUXiuZd8Q3NhcBt6GMMwTTkaqu >> X8zToK5ro >> >> pbV4hF8+/gOQ+EL7BL+2E5bm6eKI59mpOO/Z69CL+5IdDSKL08epKpvuIJI >> mNu3JyCdu >> >> 4OpA== >> >> ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; >> s=arc-20160816; >> >> h=message-id:subject:to:from:date:mime-version >> >> :arc-authentication-results; >> >> bh=RN/cksYKtaXvjBrTUO3AW31Lt1j87Lg7nLF7Ukwy8A=; >> >> b=dXvmLVykUUUxaILtavAfHuX114RQlg9kvUYSTwHSShNcG5yZWWolCjpjip >> fdfEow11 >> >> IppD7AfdK64VBE6zHj8pkg9XJSzJdb1c/E/ct0rRegSrFDANr/NhO2uGbvD >> zFdyxnBYf >> >> 28mYhWcZ7S3+5f2kNviw2/Ia0+hOPEuMZ3+JZr8vmcw0pFeuz82ZllxOYhd >> J2XCAsBzD >> >> nBx30P7ST3GUbRHI5PkOytE4YOCziHWqPbUP4U1JJP+1IS3HCNB7XK25uMH >> d8aJMD68G >> >> H+SquXOBfMLs6EjTE9fXNW4ZRmToww9xvJoBy6Kki8zVlKSdEmDDNJGj3J9 >> wTi8QRSsb >> >> B3HA== >> >> ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; >> >> spf=permerror (google.com: permanent error in processing during >> lookup of cop...@themailserver.com: ciphermail-gateway.ciphermails >> erver.com not found) smtp.mailfrom=cop...@themailserver.com >> >> Return-Path: <cop...@themailserver.com> >> >> Received: from ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com ( >> ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com. [100.100.100.100]) >> >> by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s4si84193qki.253.2017.06.27.12 >> .32.56 >> >> for <p...@personalgmail.com>; >> >> Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:32:56 -0700 (PDT) >> >> Received-SPF: permerror (google.com: permanent error in processing >> during lookup of cop...@themailserver.com: ciphermail-gateway.ciphermails >> erver.com not found) client-ip=100.100.100.100; >> >> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; >> >> spf=permerror (google.com: permanent error in processing during >> lookup of cop...@themailserver.com: ciphermail-gateway.ciphermails >> erver.com not found) smtp.mailfrom=cop...@themailserver.com >> >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> >> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_39b41678131c459a9e >> 029ec3c1356561" >> >> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:33:02 -0400 >> >> From: Email Server User <cop...@themailserver.com> >> >> To: p...@personalgmail.com >> >> Subject: TEST FOR LIST FROM SERVER >> >> Message-ID: <ce5baa86f628f249db3fa3f7fb28b...@themailserver.com> >> >> >> >> --=_39b41678131c459a9e029ec3c1356561 >> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> >> >> >> TEST >> >> --=_39b41678131c459a9e029ec3c1356561 >> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 >> >> >> >> <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; >> charset= >> >> =3DUTF-8" /></head><body style=3D'font-size: 10pt; font-family: >> Verdana,Gen= >> >> eva,sans-serif'> >> >> <p>TEST</p> >> >> </body></html> >> >> >> >> --=_39b41678131c459a9e029ec3c1356561-- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Dino Edwards < >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net> wrote: >> >> I’m not sure what the concern is. You are simply sending me an email. >> Just trying to help. If you don’t feel comfortable doing it then that’s >> fine, but I can’t look at the logs to see what’s happening if anything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:13 PM >> *To:* Dino Edwards <dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net> >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Djigzo users] Servers wont talk to me! >> >> >> >> Dino, >> >> >> >> Any way to do it without sending across the internet. I am not super >> comfortable to sending across to people I do not know... Can I send to >> myself then black out info and send to you? >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users@lists.djigzo.com> wrote: >> >> Can you send me an email through your ciphermail gateway directly. Our >> server is pretty locked down so if there is a problem, it may show up. That >> Microsoft error is very misleading >> >> >> From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:52 PM >> To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net> >> Subject: Re: [Djigzo users] Servers wont talk to me! >> >> Correct. Microsoft states no issues.. Here's what I sent Martijn. >> >> We have a postfix server (plesk) that sends emails to cipher mail. So >> someone in plesk sends an email lets say j...@apple.com<mailto:joe@apple >> .com> is sending an email out to s...@banana.com<mailto:s...@banana.com>. >> Our plesk server hosts the @apple.com<http://apple.com/> domain. In >> postfix on the plesk server, we have it setup with: >> >> relayhost = (cipermailserver IP) >> >> Mail then gets sent over to the ciphermail server. Ciphermail has the IP >> of the plesk mail server setup as "my networks". And then it goes out from >> there and just encrypts based on [encrypt] subject. >> >> There are a few domains hosted on the plesk server that would route >> through the cipermail server. >> >> MTA Config: >> >> https://cl.ly/1Q2o312u073q >> >> Global: >> >> https://cl.ly/1U08092o1A1y >> >> So my issue is anytime I email out to anyone on Officer 365, I get this >> code: >> >> https://cl.ly/312x3c2N2c0s >> >> SFP records include both the plesk email server and ciphermail server, >> MXtoolbox shows 100% green, sending reputation is perfect. >> >> Hopefully this helps some.. >> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>> wrote: >> But when you send to other recipients who are not on Office 365, it’s no >> problem? >> >> >> >> From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:37 PM >> To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>> >> Subject: Re: [Djigzo users] Servers wont talk to me! >> >> Correct! >> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>> wrote: >> So, email goes from your email server to ciphermail box out to its final >> destination. But when you send email out to Office 365 recipient you are >> getting 550 Mailbox Unavailable messages? Or am I misunderstanding what’s >> happening? >> >> >> >> >> From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>>] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:49 AM >> To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net >> <mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>>>; Martijn Brinkers < >> mart...@ciphermail.com<mailto:mart...@ciphermail.com><mailto: >> mart...@ciphermail.com<mailto:mart...@ciphermail.com>>> >> Cc: users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>> >> Subject: Re: [Djigzo users] Servers wont talk to me! >> >> Here is snippet: >> >> https://cl.ly/3w3Q2U1l1N32 >> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldevelo...@gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com>>>> wrote: >> Dino/Matijn, >> >> I am getting a lot of 550 Mailbox Unavailable for people who are using >> microsoft 365. It happened as soon as we turned on the cipher mail server. >> Everythins is good via mxtoolbox (all green checkmarks) but not sure why we >> keep getthing this message. If I turn off cipher mail and just go from >> email server to outlook 365 it goes through fine. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldevelo...@gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com>>>> wrote: >> DIno, >> >> Thanks for all your help! Can you post the complete apache config file? >> Also I think the paths are wrong (?) Mine is >> https://x.x.x.x:8443/ciphermail is the main admin page.. I wanted to >> change the main portal page to something else so I could block port access >> to 8443 on the firewall >> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>> wrote: >> There is certainly way to do it with Tomcat but I can’t really help with >> that, I’m not that familiar with it. I can tell you that Apache is a much >> more advanced http server with a lot more functionality than Tomcat. Tomcat >> is primarily designed to serve Java Servlets and JSPs. >> >> My method is simpler I believe because it does not require you changing >> the configuration of Tomcat and ciphermail. You simply put Apache in front >> of it with the mod_proxy_ajp module which communicates with Tomcat using >> the default config. >> >> Of course, it’s all up to you how you want to proceed. >> >> From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto:sign >> aldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>>>] >> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 6:48 PM >> To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net >> <mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>><mailto:dino.edwards@ >> mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net><mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Djigzo users] Servers wont talk to me! >> >> I dont NEED to use apache, is there a way to do it with tomcat? >> >> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@ >> lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user >> s...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use >> r...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>>> wrote: >> The following settings in main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf>< >> http://main.cf><http://main.cf> should get you started for TLS: >> >> # TLS parameters >> smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/cert.cer >> smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/certs/key.key >> smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/root.cer >> #smtpd_use_tls=yes >> smtpd_tls_security_level = may >> smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache >> smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache >> smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1 >> >> I misspoke earlier. It’s been so long since I did this. Ciphermail comes >> bundled with Tomcat and it runs on port 8888 if I’m not mistaking. So, if >> you want to utilize Apache instead, you have to install mod_proxy_ajp >> module in Apache and setup an apache config like below: >> >> ProxyPass /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo >> ProxyPassReverse /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo >> ProxyPass /web http://localhost:8888/web >> ProxyPassReverse /web http://localhost:8888/web >> ProxyTimeout 3600 >> >> >> Changing the port has to be done within apache. So, if you want to use >> 443, you must of course install mod_ssl on apache, as well as certificate. >> I have a complete Apache config file if you want, let me know and I’ll post >> the relevant parts. >> >> >> From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto:sign >> aldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto:signal >> develo...@gmail.com>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>>>>] >> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:42 PM >> To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net >> <mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>><mailto:dino.edwards@ >> mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net><mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>>>< >> mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net >> ><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino. >> edwa...@mydirectmail.net>><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net >> <mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>>>>> >> Cc: users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists. >> djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com >> <mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Djigzo users] Servers wont talk to me! >> >> Okay I will try that. I am also noticing that mxtoolbox states this >> server isn't configured for TLS? I do not see any settings under interface >> for this. Is this set on postfix main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf>< >> http://main.cf><http://main.cf><http://main.cf> file manually? >> >> Also if I wanted to remove the port or change the port to a default 443 >> do I need to do this within apache, or does the GUI do the config itself? >> >> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@ >> lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user >> s...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use >> r...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@ >> lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user >> s...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use >> r...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>>>> wrote: >> I’m guessing sendmail got installed by accident or as part of something >> else. Not sure. I would either uninstall sendmail or change its port number >> if it’s absolutely necessary, although it doesn’t seem like that’s the case. >> >> Since the Web GUI runs on a different port, you can set whatever hostname >> you want in ciphermail as long as that hostname is resolvable by the >> outside world and as long as the back-end webserver (apache I assume) is >> configured to answer on that port. So, if you want the web portal to be >> https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/ in ciphermail under settings --> >> portal >> >> è Base URL you set it as follows: >> >> https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/web/portal/ >> >> >> >> From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto:sign >> aldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto:signal >> develo...@gmail.com>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>>>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto:sig >> naldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto:s >> ignaldevelo...@gmail.com>>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto:s >> ignaldevelo...@gmail.com><mailto:signaldevelo...@gmail.com<mailto: >> signaldevelo...@gmail.com>>>>>] >> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:13 PM >> To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net >> <mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>><mailto:dino.edwards@ >> mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net><mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>>>< >> mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net >> ><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino. >> edwa...@mydirectmail.net>><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net >> <mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>>>><mailto:dino.edwards@ >> mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net><mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>>< >> mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net >> ><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino. >> edwa...@mydirectmail.net>>><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net >> <mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>><mailto:dino.edwards@ >> mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net><mailto: >> dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net>>>>>> >> Cc: users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists. >> djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com >> <mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com>>>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:u >> s...@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists. >> djigzo.com>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com >> ><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Djigzo users] Servers wont talk to me! >> >> Hi Dino, >> >> Wonder why sendmail keeps trying to start then.. Odd. >> >> I'd really like to set the web portal to a different address versus the >> HELO name I meant, sorry. >> >> Paul >> >> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@ >> lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user >> s...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use >> r...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@ >> lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user >> s...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use >> r...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@ >> lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user >> s...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use >> r...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@ >> lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user >> s...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use >> r...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>>>>> wrote: >> You don't need both. One or the other, although Postfix is recommended. >> >> Different site, meaning different server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Users [mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-bounces@ >> lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com< >> mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users- >> boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com >> ><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-bounces@lists. >> djigzo.com>><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com< >> mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com>>>><mailto:users- >> boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com >> >><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-bounces@lists. >> djigzo.com><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com< >> mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users- >> boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com >> ><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-bounces@lists. >> djigzo.com>>>>><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com< >> mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users- >> boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com >> >>><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users-bounces@lists. >> djigzo.com><mailto:users-boun...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> 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j...@ciphermail.com><mailto:mart...@ciphermail.com<mailto:mart >> i...@ciphermail.com>>>>>>> >> Cc: users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists. >> djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com >> <mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com>>>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:u >> s...@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists. >> djigzo.com>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com >> ><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com >> >>>>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>< >> mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@ >> lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user >> s...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use >> r...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@ >> lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user >> s...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use >> r...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Djigzo users] Servers wont talk to me! >> >> IP Is not blacklisted, reverse DNS has been setup also. >> >> For some reason sendmail and postfix are using the same port? Do I need >> both? >> >> I would also like to set the web portal to a different site versus the >> hostname. >> >> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:15 AM, Martijn Brinkers via Users < >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists. >> djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com >> <mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com>>>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:u >> s...@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists. >> djigzo.com>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com >> ><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com >> >>>>><mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>< >> mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@ >> lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user >> s...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use >> r...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@ >> lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user >> s...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use >> r...@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users@lists.djigzo.com>>>>>>> wrote: >> >> > On 06/22/2017 10:32 PM, Paul Bronson via Users wrote: >> > > Okay here is what I have.. Still not sure what's wrong. >> > > >> > > http://imgur.com/a/k0ysM >> > > http://imgur.com/a/QuyaO >> > > http://imgur.com/a/9pNyl >> > > >> > > I have the IP listed in my networks. >> > > >> > > So my setup goes like this: >> > > >> > > Incoming email >> firewall >> email server >> > > >> > > Cipher mail is not used for incoming, but my outgoing setup is: >> > > >> > > Outgoing email >> email server >> ciphermail server >> firewall >> >> > internet >> > > >> > > For some reason I think something is getting clogged up on CM >> > > server. I have the email server (postfix) setup with a relayhost, so >> > > it will >> > forward >> > > all mails to the ciphermail server. The "locality" setting on my >> > > server >> > is >> > > "external" - does this matter? It's behind our firewall and should >> > > only >> > be >> > > sending mail off from our internal mail server. >> > > >> > > I had it on in the morning and the others told me they are getting a >> > > lot >> > of >> > > bouncebacks. I have a feeling this is because of the SFP records but >> > > I >> > want >> > > to make sure the server is setup properly. >> > > >> > > The OTP you helped me with works now also, thank you! >> > > >> > > Everything is inherited from global also. >> > >> > Once the email has been handled by the back-end (MPA), the email is >> > handed over to the MTA (Postfix). The MTA is responsible for >> > delivering the email. If the email is not delivered you should check >> > the MTA logs to see why. There can be a number of reasons why the >> > recipients mail server won't accept email: your IP address might be >> > dynamic (i.e., some consumer type ISP), there is no IP reverse name >> > for your IP address, the reverse IP name is not the same as the SMTP >> > helo name. your IP might be black-listed. >> > >> > Solving this does not involve making changes in the CipherMail global >> > settings. The only change in CipherMail that influences delivery is >> > the MTA helo name. >> > >> > Could you sent some MTA logs showing which mails were not delivered? >> > >> > What is the IP address the CipherMail gateway is using? >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > >> > Martijn Brinkers >> > >> > >> > -- >> > CipherMail email encryption >> > >> > Email encryption with support for S/MIME, OpenPGP, PDF encryption and >> > secure webmail pull. >> > >> > https://www.ciphermail.com >> > >> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/CipherMail >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Users mailing list >> >> > Users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:Users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> Users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:Users@lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> Users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:Users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> Users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:Users@lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto: >> Users@lists.djigzo.com<mailto:Users@lists.djigzo.com><mailto:Users@lists. >> 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