On Sat, 9 Mar 2013, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 03/09/2013 01:24 PM, Max Pyziur wrote:

 One of the frustrations here, is that the base of subscribers on
 users@lists.fedoraproject.org is incosistent in its replies. I've posted
 at least two requests on this subject.

 There have been few, if no, replies. I've tried to find other sources as
 to the timing/availability of fedup, requesting the same on
 users@lists.fedoraproject.org; no guidance forthcoming.

Just because you ask a question doesn't mean that somebody on this list will know the answer. And, if that's the case, it doesn't matter how many times you ask; you still won't get an answer.

I understand that.

I've also conditioned my request by asking for other sources.

I've been around since Fedora Core 2, and have made much use of the supporting email lists.

I also suspect, but don't know, that the subscription base should be reasonably extensive and that developer members of the Fedora user community use this is as a resource.

Since not all Fedora knowledge can be encapsulated in one place or in one person, community discourse is key and fundamental in maintaining the vitality of this sort of project.

On this upgrade go-around (F17->F18) the challenges in the process have been more elevated (I now have an unuseable machine because of this; I'd like to go through some recovery and I *do* rely on this list as a primary resource for that). For me, ther have probably been more frustrating upgrades. And at this point, I'm savvy enough to have backups and redundancy.

W/r/t FedUp, since it is a procedure that is now central to upgrading releases of Fedora, I expect that there would be more interest at this point, where more focus is being placed on it. So some sort of dialogue on this subject would be helpful.

So, how do I recover the use of my machine.

Much thanks.

Max Pyziur
p...@brama.com
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