Hi Reuti,

Thanks for suggesting "LogLevel DEBUG3."  I did so and complete
session is captured in the attached file.

What I did is much similar to what I have done before: verify
that ssh works and then run mpirun command.  In my a bit lengthy
session log, there are two responses from "LogLevel DEBUG3."  First
from an scp invocation and then from mpirun invocation.  They both
say
    debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey).

>From mpirun invocation, I see a line:

    debug1: Sending command:  orted --daemonize -mca ess env -mca
orte_ess_jobid 3344891904 -mca orte_ess_vpid 1 -mca orte_ess_num_procs
    2 --hnp-uri "3344891904.0;tcp://10.194.95.239:54256"
The IP address at the end of the line is indeed that of machine B.
After that there was hanging and I controlled-C out of it, which
gave me more lines.  But the lines after
    debug1: Sending command:  orted bla bla bla
doesn't look good to me.  But, in truth, I have no idea what they
mean.

If you could shed some light, I would appreciate it very much.

Regards,

Tena


On 2/10/11 10:57 AM, "Reuti" <re...@staff.uni-marburg.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Am 10.02.2011 um 19:11 schrieb Tena Sakai:
> 
>>> your local machine is Linux like, but the execution hosts
>>> are Macs? I saw the /Users/tsakai/... in your output.
>> 
>> No, my environment is entirely linux.  The path to my home
>> directory on one host (blitzen) has been known as /Users/tsakai,
>> despite it is an nfs mount from vixen (which is known to
>> itself as /home/tsakai).  For historical reasons, I have
>> chosen to give a symbolic link named /Users to vixen's /Home,
>> so that I can use consistent path for both vixen and blitzen.
> 
> okay. Sometimes the protection of the home directory must be adjusted too, but
> as you can do it from the command line this shouldn't be an issue.
> 
> 
>>> Is this a private cluster (or at least private interfaces)?
>>> It would also be an option to use hostbased authentication,
>>> which will avoid setting any known_hosts file or passphraseless
>>> ssh-keys for each user.
>> 
>> No, it is not a private cluster.  It is Amazon EC2.  When I
>> Ssh from my local machine (vixen) I use its public interface,
>> but to address from one amazon cluster node to the other I
>> use nodes' private dns names: domU-12-31-39-07-35-21 and
>> domU-12-31-39-06-74-E2.  Both public and private dns names
>> change from a launch to another.  I am using passphrasesless
>> ssh-keys for authentication in all cases, i.e., from vixen to
>> Amazon node A, from amazon node A to amazon node B, and from
>> Amazon node B back to A.  (Please see my initail post.  There
>> is a session dialogue for this.)  They all work without authen-
>> tication dialogue, except a brief initial dialogue:
>>    The authenticity of host 'domu-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-x (10.xx.xx.xx)'
>>    can't be established.
>>     RSA key fingerprint is e3:ad:75:b1:a4:63:7f:0f:c4:0b:10:71:f3:2f:21:81.
>>     Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
>> to which I say "yes."
>> But I am unclear with what you mean by "hostbased authentication"?
>> Doesn't that mean with password?  If so, it is not an option.
> 
> No. It's convenient inside a private cluster as it won't fill each users'
> known_hosts file and you don't need to create any ssh-keys. But when the
> hostname changes every time it might also create new hostkeys. It uses
> hostkeys (private and public), this way it works for all users. Just for
> reference:
> 
> http://arc.liv.ac.uk/SGE/howto/hostbased-ssh.html
> 
> You could look into it later.
> 
> ==
> 
> - Can you try to use a command when connecting from A to B? E.g. ssh
> `domU-12-31-39-06-74-E2 ls`. Is this working too?
> 
> - What about putting:
> 
> LogLevel DEBUG3
> 
> In your ~/.ssh/config. Maybe we can see what he's trying to negotiate before
> it fails in verbose mode.
> 
> 
> -- Reuti
> 
> 
> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Tena
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/10/11 2:27 AM, "Reuti" <re...@staff.uni-marburg.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> your local machine is Linux like, but the execution hosts are Macs? I saw
>>> the
>>> /Users/tsakai/... in your output.
>>> 
>>> a) executing a command on them is also working, e.g.: ssh
>>> domU-12-31-39-07-35-21 ls
>>> 
>>> Am 10.02.2011 um 07:08 schrieb Tena Sakai:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I have made a bit of progress(?)...
>>>> I made a config file in my .ssh directory on the cloud.  It looks like:
>>>>    # machine A
>>>>    Host domU-12-31-39-07-35-21.compute-1.internal
>>> 
>>> This is just an abbreviation or nickname above. To use the specified
>>> settings,
>>> it's necessary to specify exactly this name. When the settings are the same
>>> anyway for all machines, you can use:
>>> 
>>> Host *
>>>    IdentityFile /home/tsakai/.ssh/tsakai
>>>    IdentitiesOnly yes
>>>    BatchMode yes
>>> 
>>> instead.
>>> 
>>> Is this a private cluster (or at least private interfaces)? It would also be
>>> an option to use hostbased authentication, which will avoid setting any
>>> known_hosts file or passphraseless ssh-keys for each user.
>>> 
>>> -- Reuti
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>    HostName domU-12-31-39-07-35-21
>>>>    BatchMode yes
>>>>    IdentityFile /home/tsakai/.ssh/tsakai
>>>>    ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
>>>>    IdentitiesOnly yes
>>>> 
>>>>    # machine B
>>>>    Host domU-12-31-39-06-74-E2.compute-1.internal
>>>>    HostName domU-12-31-39-06-74-E2
>>>>    BatchMode yes
>>>>    IdentityFile /home/tsakai/.ssh/tsakai
>>>>    ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
>>>>    IdentitiesOnly yes
>>>> 
>>>> This file exists on both machine A and machine B.
>>>> 
>>>> Now When I issue mpirun command as below:
>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-06-74-E2 ~]$ mpirun -app app.ac2
>>>> 
>>>> It hungs.  I control-C out of it and I get:
>>>>    mpirun: killing job...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>    mpirun noticed that the job aborted, but has no info as to the process
>>>>    that caused that situation.
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>    mpirun was unable to cleanly terminate the daemons on the nodes shown
>>>>    below. Additional manual cleanup may be required - please refer to
>>>>    the "orte-clean" tool for assistance.
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>        domU-12-31-39-07-35-21.compute-1.internal - daemon did not report
>>>> back when launched
>>>> 
>>>> Am I making progress?
>>>> 
>>>> Does this mean I am past authentication and something else is the problem?
>>>> Does someone have an example .ssh/config file I can look at?  There are so
>>>> many keyword-argument paris for this config file and I would like to look
>>>> at
>>>> some very basic one that works.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> 
>>>> Tena Sakai
>>>> tsa...@gallo.ucsf.edu
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/9/11 7:52 PM, "Tena Sakai" <tsa...@gallo.ucsf.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have an app.ac1 file like below:
>>>>>    [tsakai@vixen local]$ cat app.ac1
>>>>>    -H vixen.egcrc.org   -np 1 Rscript
>>>>> /Users/tsakai/Notes/R/parallel/Rmpi/local/fib.R 5
>>>>>    -H vixen.egcrc.org   -np 1 Rscript
>>>>> /Users/tsakai/Notes/R/parallel/Rmpi/local/fib.R 6
>>>>>    -H blitzen.egcrc.org -np 1 Rscript
>>>>> /Users/tsakai/Notes/R/parallel/Rmpi/local/fib.R 7
>>>>>    -H blitzen.egcrc.org -np 1 Rscript
>>>>> /Users/tsakai/Notes/R/parallel/Rmpi/local/fib.R 8
>>>>> 
>>>>> The program I run is
>>>>>    Rscript /Users/tsakai/Notes/R/parallel/Rmpi/local/fib.R x
>>>>> Where x is [5..8].  The machines vixen and blitzen each run 2 runs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here¹s the program fib.R:
>>>>>    [ tsakai@vixen local]$ cat fib.R
>>>>>        # fib() computes, given index n, fibonacci number iteratively
>>>>>        # here's the first dozen sequence (indexed from 0..11)
>>>>>        # 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89
>>>>> 
>>>>>    fib <- function( n ) {
>>>>>            a <- 0
>>>>>            b <- 1
>>>>>            for ( i in 1:n ) {
>>>>>                 t <- b
>>>>>                 b <- a
>>>>>                 a <- a + t
>>>>>            }
>>>>>        a
>>>>> 
>>>>>    arg <- commandArgs( TRUE )
>>>>>    myHost <- system( 'hostname', intern=TRUE )
>>>>>    cat( fib(arg), myHost, '\n' )
>>>>> 
>>>>> It reads an argument from command line and produces a fibonacci number
>>>>> that
>>>>> corresponds to that index, followed by the machine name.  Pretty simple
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here¹s the run output:
>>>>>    [tsakai@vixen local]$ mpirun -app app.ac1
>>>>>    5 vixen.egcrc.org
>>>>>    8 vixen.egcrc.org
>>>>>    13 blitzen.egcrc.org
>>>>>    21 blitzen.egcrc.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which is exactly what I expect.  So far so good.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now I want to run the same thing on cloud.  I launch 2 instances of the
>>>>> same
>>>>> virtual machine, to which I get to by:
>>>>>    [tsakai@vixen local]$ ssh ­A ­I ~/.ssh/tsakai
>>>>> machine-instance-A-public-dns
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now I am on machine A:
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$ # and I can go to machine B without
>>>>> password authentication,
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$ # i.e., use public/private key
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$ hostname
>>>>>    domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$ ssh -i .ssh/tsakai
>>>>> domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01
>>>>>    Last login: Wed Feb  9 20:51:48 2011 from 10.254.214.4
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01 ~]$
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01 ~]$ # I am now on machine B
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01 ~]$ hostname
>>>>>    domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01 ~]$
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01 ~]$ # now show I can get to machine A
>>>>> without using password
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01 ~]$
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01 ~]$ ssh -i .ssh/tsakai
>>>>> domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2
>>>>>    The authenticity of host 'domu-12-31-39-00-d1-f2 (10.254.214.4)' can't
>>>>> be established.
>>>>>    RSA key fingerprint is e3:ad:75:b1:a4:63:7f:0f:c4:0b:10:71:f3:2f:21:81.
>>>>>    Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
>>>>>    Warning: Permanently added 'domu-12-31-39-00-d1-f2' (RSA) to the list
>>>>> of
>>>>> known hosts.
>>>>>    Last login: Wed Feb  9 20:49:34 2011 from 10.215.203.239
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$ hostname
>>>>>    domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$ exit
>>>>>    logout
>>>>>    Connection to domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 closed.
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01 ~]$
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01 ~]$ exit
>>>>>    logout
>>>>>    Connection to domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01 closed.
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$ # back at machine A
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$ hostname
>>>>>    domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2
>>>>> 
>>>>> As you can see, neither machine uses password for authentication; it uses
>>>>> public/private key pairs.  There is no problem (that I can see) for ssh
>>>>> invocation
>>>>> from one machine to the other.  This is so because I have a copy of public
>>>>> key
>>>>> and a copy of private key on each instance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The app.ac file is identical, except the node names:
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$ cat app.ac1
>>>>>    -H domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 -np 1 Rscript /home/tsakai/fib.R 5
>>>>>    -H domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 -np 1 Rscript /home/tsakai/fib.R 6
>>>>>    -H domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01 -np 1 Rscript /home/tsakai/fib.R 7
>>>>>    -H domU-12-31-39-0C-C8-01 -np 1 Rscript /home/tsakai/fib.R 8
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here¹s what happens with mpirun:
>>>>> 
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$ mpirun -app app.ac1
>>>>>    tsakai@domu-12-31-39-0c-c8-01's password:
>>>>>    Permission denied, please try again.
>>>>>    tsakai@domu-12-31-39-0c-c8-01's password: mpirun: killing job...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>    mpirun noticed that the job aborted, but has no info as to the process
>>>>>    that caused that situation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>>    mpirun: clean termination accomplished
>>>>> 
>>>>>    [tsakai@domU-12-31-39-00-D1-F2 ~]$
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mpirun (or somebody else?) asks me password, which I don¹t have.
>>>>> I end up typing control-C.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here¹s my question:
>>>>> How can I get past authentication by mpirun where there is no password?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would appreciate your help/insight greatly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tena Sakai
>>>>> tsa...@gallo.ucsf.edu
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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