"sudo" and "su" are two similar commands for doing nearly identical things, you 
should be running one or the other but there is no need to run both.  "sudo -s" 
is probably the command you should have used.  It's a very common mistake.

sudo is a command for allowing you to run commands as another user, either 
using your own or no password.  su is a command to allow you to run commands as 
another user using their password.  What sudo su is doing is running a command 
as root which is then running a shell as root, "sudo -s" is a much better way 
of achieving the same effect.

Ashley.

On 13 Feb 2011, at 22:16, Tena Sakai wrote:

> Thank you, Ashley, for your comments.
> 
> I do have a question.
> I was using 'sudo su' to document the problem I am running
> into for people who read this mailing list, as well as for
> my own record.  Why would you say I shouldn't be doing so?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tena
> 
> 
> On 2/13/11 1:29 PM, "Ashley Pittman" <ash...@pittman.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 12 Feb 2011, at 14:06, Ralph Castain wrote:
>> 
>>> Have you searched the email archive and/or web for openmpi and Amazon cloud?
>>> Others have previously worked through many of these problems for that
>>> environment - might be worth a look to see if someone already solved this, 
>>> or
>>> at least a contact point for someone who is already running in that
>>> environment.
>> 
>> I've run Open MPI on Amazon ec2 for over a year and never experienced any
>> problems like the original poster describes.
>> 
>>> IIRC, there are some unique problems with running on that platform.
>> 
>> 
>> None that I'm aware of.
>> 
>> EC2 really is no different from any other environment I've used, either real
>> or virtual, a simple download, ./configure, make and make install has always
>> resulted in a working OpenMPI assuming a shared install location and home
>> directory (for launching applications from).
>> 
>> When I'm using EC2 I tend to re-name machines into something that is easier 
>> to
>> follow, typically "cloud[0-15].ec2" assuming I am running 16 machines, I
>> change the hostname of each host and then write a /etc/hosts file to convert
>> from hostname to internal IP address.  I them export /home from cloud0.ec2 to
>> all the other nodes and configure OpenMPI with --prefix=/home/ashley/install
>> so that the code is installed everywhere.
>> 
>> For EC2 Instances I commonly use Fedora but have also used Ubuntu and 
>> Solaris,
>> all have been fundamentally similar.
>> 
>> My other tip for using EC2 would be to use a persistent "home" folder by
>> renting a disk partition and attaching it to the first instance you boot in a
>> session.  You pay for this by Gb/Month, I was able to use a 5Gb device which 
>> I
>> mounted at /home in cloud0.ec2 and NFS exported to the other instances, again
>> at /home.  You'll need to add "ForwardAgent yes" to your personal .ssh/config
>> to allow you to hop around inside the virtual cluster without entering a
>> password.  The persistent devices are called "Volumes" in EC2 speak, there is
>> no need to create snapshots unless you want to share your volume with other
>> people.
>> 
>> Ashley.
>> 
>> Ps, I would recommend reading up on sudo and su, "sudo su" is not a command
>> you should be typing.
> 
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