typo "start our own" On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Duane Larson <duane.lar...@gmail.com>wrote:
> With so many attendees we could start or own global federated Telecom > company and beat AT&T into the ground. > > > > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:51 PM, David J. <da...@styleflare.com> wrote: > >> 11:01:07 AM bogdan_vs: Hi all >> SylkServer [~sylkse...@node10.dns-hosting.info] entered the room. >> (11:01:15 AM) >> bogdan_vs has changed the topic to: - OpenSIPS community meeting in >> progress (11:01:28 AM) >> 11:01:34 AM saghul: hi bogdan_vs >> 11:01:38 AM aidanna: howdy bogdan_vs >> 11:01:45 AM SylkServer: Adrian Georgescu <sip:31208005...@ag-projects.com>: >> hello >> 11:01:59 AM haloha: haloha >> 11:02:05 AM haloha: hello all >> 11:02:07 AM bogdan_vs: we have scheduled for today the first meeting >> 11:02:29 AM bogdan_vs: and the plan is to continue it each month >> 11:03:08 AM bogdan_vs: as I said per email, the purpose of this kind of >> meeting is to identify issues (tech or non-tech) >> DelphiWorld [~VoIpGuy@41.200.24.249] entered the room. (11:03:21 AM) >> 11:03:22 AM DelphiWorld: hi >> 11:03:33 AM DelphiWorld: bogdan_vs: you overloaded my brain >> 11:03:38 AM bogdan_vs: and not necessarily to solve them here (as this is >> more complicated) >> 11:03:46 AM DelphiWorld: bogdan_vs: i did /join #bogdan_vs no #opensips >> 11:03:51 AM bogdan_vs: DelphiWorld: take a deep breath >> 11:03:58 AM DelphiWorld: bogdan_vs: >> 11:04:05 AM DelphiWorld: bogsee you soon in romania >> 11:04:11 AM DelphiWorld: bogdan_vs: see you soon in romania >> 11:04:33 AM bogdan_vs: and the topic of this first meeting is actually the >> meeting framework itself >> duane [~duane@12.37.251.126] entered the room. (11:04:35 AM) >> 11:04:49 AM DelphiWorld: bogdan_vs: when? tomorrow? >> 11:04:59 AM bogdan_vs: to make it as simple, accessible and pleasant for >> everybody >> 11:05:09 AM bogdan_vs: DelphiWorld: the meeting is now >> 11:05:42 AM bogdan_vs: My original idea was to use something text based >> (chat) and next step was IRC >> 11:06:09 AM bogdan_vs: now the question is if chat-like IRC is ok or we >> can come up with something better >> 11:06:31 AM p3k4y: google wave >> 11:06:56 AM bogdan_vs: p3k4y: not familiar with that - what's that ? >> skynet [5aa59c1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.165.156.31] entered the room. >> (11:07:10 AM) >> 11:07:29 AM bogdan_vs: any suggestion on that ? or brave ideas ? >> 11:07:30 AM bogdan_vs: >> samu60 [d424476d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.36.71.109] entered the room. >> (11:07:30 AM) >> skynet left the room. (11:07:34 AM) >> 11:07:38 AM Amduscias: you didn't miss anything imho.. some combined >> version of email, IM and colaboration work.. >> 11:07:42 AM saghul: bogdan_vs: adding audio would be nice IMHO >> STenyaK [~quas...@66.red-80-25-84.staticip.rima-tde.net] entered the >> room. (11:07:49 AM) >> 11:07:53 AM p3k4y: bogdan_vs: ah, it was a communication "revolution" >> based in javascript that google released last year. Unfortunately it didn't >> catch on and they canned it. It was a tongue in cheek suggestion >> 11:08:05 AM Amduscias: imho IRC is good, you don't need to be 100% aware >> as on a phone call.. and you can silence the room (moderate it) if needed.. >> 11:08:18 AM aidanna: anything a sip client would work with would be fine >> with me, but I do like the text base format and simplicity of IRC >> 11:08:29 AM p3k4y: +1 for IRC >> 11:08:37 AM viraptor: yeah - irc is nice... #vuc does conference which >> seems to be audio + backlog sorted out on irc >> FlavioEGoncalves [~FlavioEGo@189.34.13.90] entered the room. (11:08:47 >> AM) >> 11:08:49 AM svenschulz: IRC is fine for now. >> 11:09:34 AM SylkServer: Adrian Georgescu <sip:31208005...@ag-projects.com>: >> If you use Blink on Mac go to menu Call -> Join Conference -> opensips You >> end up in this IRC channel with chat and wide-band audio bridge >> 11:09:37 AM bogdan_vs: the only attractive part on audio is to broadcast >> something, speaking is ffaster >> 11:09:51 AM saghul: bogdan_vs: exactly >> 11:09:57 AM duane: Audio would be nice, but it was mentioned that there >> would be a language barrier for a lot of people >> 11:10:15 AM saghul: recordings and IRC logs could then be posted on the >> website or something. >> 11:10:29 AM viraptor: then again - if you plan to spell out any paths / >> names / modules / configuration lines, we probably would need irc anyways >> 11:10:34 AM bogdan_vs: so maybe in some cases we can have front IRC text >> channel and an audio back channel maybe >> 11:11:00 AM saghul: duane: Those who want to ask questions or make >> comments may still do it on IRC >> 11:11:05 AM bogdan_vs: duane: text everybody has - audio maybe not - TRUE >> 11:11:22 AM duane: True. I for one would like Audio >> 11:11:26 AM bogdan_vs: saghul: we have a recorded for IRC - it logs, but >> still working on posting the logs >> 11:11:41 AM bogdan_vs: saghul: check the "recorder_" buddy >> 11:11:42 AM saghul: bogdan_vs: good to know >> 11:11:42 AM aidanna: i say try it and see >> 11:12:01 AM bogdan_vs: viraptor: IRC as primary , permanent, default >> duane is now known as DuaneLarson (11:12:11 AM) >> 11:12:14 AM bogdan_vs: audio maybe time to time for special cases, maybe >> 11:13:12 AM DelphiWorld: SylkServer: hey adrian! >> 11:13:19 AM saghul: Good thing about audio is the fact I don't need to be >> reading if I just want to be listening >> 11:13:37 AM saghul: Also, we speak faster than we type >> 11:13:39 AM bogdan_vs: saghul: on the other hand you do not have history >> 11:13:48 AM SylkServer: Adrian Georgescu <sip:31208005...@ag-projects.com>: >> opens...@conference.sip2sip.info >> 11:13:57 AM saghul: bogdan_vs: we could easily have recordings >> 11:14:03 AM SylkServer: Adrian Georgescu <sip:31208005...@ag-projects.com>: >> We can record the audio and publish it afterwards >> 11:14:09 AM bogdan_vs: if you missed 2 mins, that's it...on text you can >> scroll back >> 11:14:30 AM bogdan_vs: the idea is to be realtime, as much os possible >> 11:15:03 AM SylkServer: Adrian Georgescu <sip:31208005...@ag-projects.com>: >> IRC is most compatible and can be recorded, very good media >> vlad_paiu [~vlad@89.122.33.81] entered the room. (11:15:34 AM) >> 11:16:11 AM SylkServer: Adrian Georgescu <sip:31208005...@ag-projects.com>: >> DelphiWorld: hello too >> 11:16:18 AM bogdan_vs: ok, so let's stay with IRC as primary, I will take >> care of logs >> 11:16:21 AM DelphiWorld: adrian can you open aditional port in >> sip2sip.info? >> 11:16:33 AM SylkServer: Adrian Georgescu <sip:31208005...@ag-projects.com>: >> Is open opens...@conference.sip2sip.info >> 11:16:36 AM SylkServer: Adrian Georgescu <sip:31208005...@ag-projects.com>: >> sip:opens...@conference.sip2sip.info >> untiptun [~alex@89.122.33.81] entered the room. (11:16:48 AM) >> 11:16:59 AM SylkServer: Adrian Georgescu <sip:31208005...@ag-projects.com>: >> If someone has DIDs can point to it >> 11:17:06 AM bogdan_vs: and we will publish the logs after each meeting >> (and eventually some action points) >> 11:17:25 AM DelphiWorld: adrian >> 11:17:28 AM DelphiWorld: what did you need >> 11:17:30 AM DelphiWorld: i can provide >> 11:18:48 AM saghul: bogdan_vs: Sounds good. It might also be nice to have >> a small 'agenda' before each meeting, to have something to start with. >> 11:18:50 AM bogdan_vs: btw, how many of you will be willing to join a SIP >> chat ? >> 11:18:58 AM SylkServer: Adrian Georgescu <sip:31208005...@ag-projects.com>: >> sip:opens...@conference.sip2sip.info >> 11:19:20 AM bogdan_vs: saghul: that is clear - we willpublish the agenda >> with 1 week before >> 11:19:29 AM saghul: What kind os SIP chat? SIP MESSAGE? MSRP? >> 11:19:52 AM bogdan_vs: SylkServer: simple SIP chat - we have in opensips >> the chat module for that >> 11:20:01 AM bogdan_vs: so you need to support MESSAGE , that's it >> 11:20:13 AM saghul: Oh, the imc module >> 11:20:42 AM bogdan_vs: I think it will be compatible with most of the SIP >> soft clients having MESSAGE >> 11:21:10 AM bogdan_vs: so, any victims willing to try sometime in the >> future? after all we do SIP, so we could try to use it >> 11:21:25 AM osas: For now, I think that we should stick with IRC (we have >> logs and it is way easier to review IRC logs then listening to a redorded >> voice conference) >> 11:21:34 AM DelphiWorld: sack: please try +441613530284 >> 11:21:51 AM bogdan_vs: Ovidiu Sas: SIP text chat, not audio >> 11:22:03 AM svenschulz: I can be a future SIP victim >> 11:22:08 AM DelphiWorld: saghul: please try +441613530284 >> 11:22:08 AM osas: I know >> 11:22:17 AM bogdan_vs: more or less, the experience will be like IRC, but >> the infrastructure based on SIP >> 11:22:22 AM aidanna: well, since this is a sip communication server >> project, can make sense >> 11:22:39 AM osas: we can try later on with SIP, but for now, IRC is good >> enough >> 11:22:40 AM bogdan_vs: well, at least we can experiment at some point.... >> 11:22:51 AM bogdan_vs: osas: right, I agree >> 11:22:56 AM saghul: bogdan_vs: count me in for experimenting >> ghenry [~ghe...@ghenry.plus.com] entered the room. (11:22:58 AM) >> ghenry left the room (quit: Changing host). (11:22:58 AM) >> ghenry [~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry] entered the room. >> (11:22:58 AM) >> 11:23:03 AM osas: we need to focus on what we want to achieve >> 11:23:06 AM bogdan_vs: saghul: sure I will >> 11:23:10 AM osas: also, we need to set up some policies >> 11:23:21 AM bogdan_vs: osas: go on .... >> 11:23:45 AM osas: to many ppl are speacking now and the distraction is a >> little bit to much >> 11:23:49 AM DelphiWorld: bogdan_vs: i provided +441613530284 >> 11:24:11 AM osas: so, I would like to setup some rules: >> 11:24:18 AM saghul: DelphiWorld: lets stick to text for now >> 11:24:28 AM bogdan_vs: osas: well, the idea is to follow the topics, step >> by step... >> 11:24:32 AM DelphiWorld: saghul: i listened to adrian, thay asked for a >> did's >> 11:24:41 AM SylkServer: Adrian Georgescu <sip:31208005...@ag-projects.com>: >> For the future... >> 11:24:44 AM osas: bogdan_vs: you need to set the topic of the first item >> that we want to discuss, and we need to keep the conversation focus >> 11:25:10 AM osas: in other words, everyone should speack only if is >> something related to the item being discussed >> 11:25:16 AM bogdan_vs: osas: that's already in place - for each meeting we >> will have the topic list in advance >> karthik [~chatzilla@183.83.50.24] entered the room. (11:25:28 AM) >> 11:25:29 AM osas: ok >> 11:25:33 AM bogdan_vs: osas: that is also current and polite >> 11:25:41 AM osas: for now, I think we are ok with the fact that we will >> use IRC >> 11:25:49 AM bogdan_vs: yes >> 11:25:53 AM osas: perfect >> 11:26:05 AM osas: now, we need to move on to the next topic >> 11:26:09 AM bogdan_vs: another one for today is the time >> 11:26:17 AM DuaneLarson: *Raises Hand to talk* >> 11:26:27 AM bogdan_vs: if this 17:00 CET is ok for most of us >> FlavioGonc [~FlavioEGo@189.34.13.90] entered the room. (11:26:29 AM) >> 11:26:33 AM bogdan_vs: DuaneLarson: yup >> 11:26:42 AM aidanna: i'm good with it, in EST US but very easy to do IRC >> at work >> 11:26:44 AM DuaneLarson: Just wanted to show that could be a good option >> 11:27:00 AM DuaneLarson: instead of barging in on the conversation, or not >> 11:27:00 AM bogdan_vs: DuaneLarson: which is ? >> 11:27:14 AM osas: DuaneLarson: if someone has something to say and it's >> relevant, just say it >> 11:27:18 AM DuaneLarson: raising your hand that is. Would be a good >> optino >> 11:27:22 AM DuaneLarson: ok >> 11:27:31 AM osas: too many extra logs makes the reading tiring >> 11:27:39 AM DuaneLarson: Osas, you were talking about some rules. Just >> thought that might fit >> 11:27:47 AM DuaneLarson: >> 11:27:48 AM bogdan_vs: ah....ok ...but overhead is a bit higher ... >> 11:27:56 AM osas: yup >> 11:28:00 AM osas: let's keep it simple >> 11:28:05 AM svenschulz: Back to original question, yes this time works for >> me EST >> 11:28:18 AM osas: talk if you have something to say (related to the topic) >> 11:28:20 AM bogdan_vs: and after all it is a public conversation >> (following some rules), not some moderated show >> 11:28:47 AM DuaneLarson: cool >> 11:28:53 AM bogdan_vs: ok, back to the time issue - anything against it ? >> other better idea ? (with arguments, of course) >> 11:29:10 AM osas: timing seems to be good for most of us (no complains so >> far) >> 11:29:18 AM DuaneLarson: Agreed on time >> 11:30:15 AM bogdan_vs: ok, so we have the answers for : where - IRC, how - >> chat, when - 17:00 CET >> 11:30:35 AM svenschulz: once a week, right? >> 11:30:40 AM bogdan_vs: now, last thing: >> 11:30:45 AM saghul: would it always be on tuedays? >> 11:30:57 AM DelphiWorld: 63 users! bogdan_vs! first time >> 11:31:18 AM bogdan_vs: the rule is: monthly, second Wednesday of each >> month. >> 11:31:32 AM DelphiWorld: e >> 11:31:44 AM osas: that is fine (monthly seems to be reasonable) >> 11:31:48 AM bogdan_vs: so, once per month >> 11:31:53 AM DuaneLarson: Will you send out updates like usual (Linkden, >> mailing list, etc) for each meeting >> 11:31:54 AM saghul: bogdan_vs: fine with me also >> 11:32:03 AM svenschulz: works >> 11:32:07 AM bogdan_vs: DuaneLarson: sure >> deonv1 left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (11:32:34 AM) >> 11:33:01 AM bogdan_vs: last one - how to collect ideas for the next topics >> ? >> 11:33:16 AM osas: a wiki page >> 11:33:24 AM saghul: +1 to that >> 11:33:30 AM osas: that will host logs from previous meetings >> 11:33:37 AM osas: topic for each meeting >> 11:33:38 AM FlavioGonc: wiki is fine. >> 11:33:39 AM bogdan_vs: I like the idea >> 11:34:01 AM DuaneLarson: *Likes the idea* >> 11:34:20 AM bogdan_vs: ok - so everything is place.... >> 11:34:32 AM viraptor: maybe some voting on the previous meeting if the >> next ideas are already known? >> 11:34:53 AM bogdan_vs: something other things regarding the organizing ? >> 11:35:36 AM bogdan_vs: viraptor: maybe on wiki? people can second an idea >> ... >> 11:36:59 AM bogdan_vs: ok - let's stick to wiki and people supporting >> ideas there (counter for how many people are supporting the idea) >> 11:37:31 AM bogdan_vs: so more or less this was all about this first >> meeting >> 11:37:40 AM bogdan_vs: to have things in place for the future >> 11:38:05 AM bogdan_vs: regarding the topics: please remember - we discuss >> here topics, not trying to find the solutions for them >> 11:38:23 AM osas: we need to keep the meeting short and focus >> 11:38:27 AM hurinth: things like improving documentation right? >> 11:38:35 AM osas: for discussing solutions, we have the mailing list >> 11:38:43 AM bogdan_vs: once we identified and talked about the ides, we >> will find channel to solve it >> 11:38:51 AM bogdan_vs: osas: right >> 11:38:55 AM FlavioGonc: Topic suggestion: Where opensips wants to be in 5 >> years? >> 11:39:04 AM bogdan_vs: hurinth: why not >> 11:39:15 AM bogdan_vs: FlavioGonc: too long shot >> 11:39:53 AM bogdan_vs: ok - I will post on email and web the result of >> this meeting and the page for collecting the topics >> UnixDev_ [~unix...@c-67-188-28-114.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] entered the room. >> (11:40:18 AM) >> UnixDev_ left the room (quit: Changing host). (11:40:18 AM) >> UnixDev_ [~UnixDev@unaffiliated/unixdev] entered the room. (11:40:18 AM) >> 11:40:26 AM bogdan_vs: Thanks to everyone participating >> SylkServer left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection). >> (11:40:48 AM) >> 11:40:48 AM viraptor: shortest meeting I've been to in month - good! >> 11:41:07 AM viraptor: thanks Bogdan >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users@lists.opensips.org >> http://lists.opensips.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users >> > > > > -- > -- > *--*--*--*--*--* > Duane > *--*--*--*--*--* > -- > -- -- *--*--*--*--*--* Duane *--*--*--*--*--* --
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