Am 22.04.2012 18:58, schrieb Michael Heydekamp:
> Am 22.04.2012 16:52, schrieb Reindl Harald:
>> Am 22.04.2012 16:36, schrieb Michael Heydekamp:
>>> Am 21.04.2012 23:50, schrieb Reindl Harald:
> 
>>>> normally this happens only as plong a php-script
>>>> has a session open - the same client with the
>>>> same session-id can not make another request until
>>>> session_write_close() happened in the first script
>>>> or it is finished
>>>>
>>>> since session-cookies are domainwide this could
>>>> explain PARTLY the problem
>>>
>>> Probably, but if, then indeed only partly:
>>>
>>> I also can't load other web pages of the same domain (at least some of
>>> them, didn't check with all)
>>
>> and that describes exactly what i said
> 
> You deleted the more important part of the quote, as it is only a side
> issue, that I can't load other web pages of the same domain - more important
> to me is that I can't load Roundcube at all (and why I ran into this
> situation at all).

becaue what i said

if there is some active session with a script running
forever on the server this is the symptom - but usuaully this
should not happen

> If you're saying that an still open session is the problem (see above) -
> will this session stay open forever...?
> 
> Yesterday it took only 10 mins or so until I could load Roundcube again,
> now I'm waiting almost 20 hours already.

10 minutes is normal
20 hours is not normal, but on the other hand if there are
ajax requests hanging around it is not impossible

> And if I send the laptop into hibernation, wake it up again hours later,
> open a new browser tab - does this session then still have the same session
> ID as the one hours before? Sounds pretty unlikely to me.

no, the session on the server should have timeouted

>> if you can open a page on ANOTHER DOMAIN on the same
>> server then it is a open session file which can only
>> be accessed by one connection at the same time
> 
> Hmm. I'm not sure I get you right, but why can I open Roundcube then in the
> InPrivate mode of IE8? Because it's a new browser session (= a new browser
> window)?

session != browser window

session is at least a id sent via cookie
switching to "private mode" will stp sending this cookie

> This might indeed be the case, as I just realize if I open a new browser
> window (in standard mode, NOT in InPrivate mode), I can load Roundcube there
> as well.

internet explorer is a beast
years ago as i used windows a saw IMSIE with different windows having
different sessions affecting in some weird error cases even popups
from web applications with all sort of wondering effects

> So how can I get this apparently still open session get closed? Shouldn't
> it close automatically after some time (session_lifetime in main.inc.php)?

yes and no

if there is some ajax thing speaking in backround with the server
it could keep alive the session on both sides - difficulty to
debug and it makes me scary because i am webdevloper, but we advise our
customers to not use MSIE since years because many hard to explain
troubles

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