Thanks for the advice. I tried to run my own mail server, tried dynamic dns, but my ISP won't allow it, apparently. Couldn't make a connection to an smtp port.

On 2015-02-18 06:05, Noel Butler wrote:
Roundcube is most typically, but not always, run with Dovecot, unless
you rewrite bits of it, it will delete when you tell it to

The only real answer to this is, run your own mail server locally.

If you need to have a backup mail server, get a cheap VPS in Germany
and set up a secondary MX.

* Although Germany is rife with american spies, the German authorities
know who and where and make sure the yanks know that they know
(remember the low buzzing of certain Embassy building and other U.S.
Govt buildings by police choppers hahaha- loved that), and likely just
as many Mi6 spies there too, Germany still has the strongest data
protection laws in the world, and although the BND etc are not all
clean hands, they are a darn sight cleaner than anywhere else in the
world.

* Still cant work out why Merkel hasn't kicked those bastards out,
hell, there probably more CIA agents in places like Ramstien, than
their are air genuine military folk, and I'd kick them out as well, no
Govt should have military bases in other countries.

On 18/02/2015 07:56, jfmxl wrote:

Here's a question. I like the idea of pop mail. My mail program
downloads my mail from my mail server and that's it. The mail is
deleted from my mail server.

With webmail, my mail server has all my mail forever, for easy
reading at their leisure.

Now I realize that there is no longer any trust in this world, that
the NSA has long since destroyed all that, betrayed us all, and that
the internet is actually no more than a spy platform now rather than
the glorious enabler of freedom that we, I anyway, foolishly thought
it was ... that darpa played us all for fools. Still ...

What I do now is set my mail reading program to retrieve my mail
from my mail provider, save what I want locally using my mail
reading program, then use round cube to answer what I want to answer
and move all the mail to the trash before exiting. I have to use
round cube to answer my mail because my provider offers only imap
and does not allow me to send imap mail except through its round
cube. For all I know sdf.org is operated by th NSA. I asked, got no
response.

So how do I know my mail is really being deleted at my mail
provider's server. Google never ever deletes mail. The only one who
loses access to deleted google mail is the person to whom it is
addressed.

I assume the same is true of round cube mail? That my email provider
retains copies of all my mail, and the only who loses access to it
is myself when I delete it?

I also realize that my provider could simply copy all my pop3 mail
on receipt ... but at least that is a overt dirty filthy trick. It
seems to be a 'feature' of webmail?
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