------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: Siegfried Göschl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Corporate constructive criticism Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:41:51 +0200
Jason wrote : "I definitely think Ant is your best bet and I have always encouraged the use of Ant for people who have large existing builds. It a lot of cases it's not worth switching." There is a third option - I just integrated MAVEN into an existing ANT build environment without giving up the "large existing build" (400 KByte of ANT scripts) and more than 100 subprojects. Basically I reap the report generation of MAVEN and everything else is done by the existing ANT build plus a few more ANT scripts for invoking MAVEN. The setup is not for the "faint hearted" but there was no other way doing it with the given timeframe of two weeks. Cheers, Siegfried Goeschl On 27 Sep 2003 at 10:16, Jason van Zyl wrote: > On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 05:40, Stephen Colebourne wrote: > > From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I'm in a 30 person company with a development team of 5 and we > > > have a separate dev environment, qa environment and of course > > > production environments. By separate I mean really, really > > > separate - separate firewalls, separate DMZ's, separate secure > > > areas. Can't get from one to another. > > > > Well different companies will do it differently. Maybe I should be > > clear - I want dist:deploy to deploy to other developers in the > > company, not an external website. At present dist:deploy only > > supports ssh, and thats just no use to me. > > > > At present I have stopped working on using Maven. If it takes 3 days > > with Maven to not achieve what you want, then is it worth it? > > Absolutely not. > > > At some point > > everybody gives up. I know ant will give me less. But it will work. > > I definitely think Ant is your best bet and I have always encouraged > the use of Ant for people who have large existing builds. It a lot of > cases it's not worth switching. > > > You should know that I don't feel good writing this. I'm sure that > > for you guys, it all seems to work great and well. But I can't spend > > forever on trial and error attempts. > > Nope, I wouldn't either. You need to use what gets the job done for > you. And unfortunately it is true that Maven has become a little > complicated with our use of unstructured Jelly. Something that will be > remedied on the path to 2.0. > > > Especially as I don't feel that what I am trying > > to do is that complicated. > > Still if it's not doing what you need you can't use it. Fair enough. > If Ant does what you need then use it. > > > I will probably use maven just to do site:deploy (that works well > > :-). The rest will be ant. Maybe I'll look again after version 1.0. > > Sorry. > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For > > additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > jvz. > > Jason van Zyl > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://tambora.zenplex.org > > In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational > and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it. > > -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For > additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------- End of forwarded message ------- Siegfried Goeschl CTO ================================= IT20one GmbH mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +43-1-9900046 fax: +43-1-52 37 888 www.it20one.at Siegfried Goeschl CTO ================================= IT20one GmbH mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +43-1-9900046 www.it20one.at --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
