I agree wholeheartedly.

Cody Fyler
Lending Grid Build Team
cody.a.fy...@wellsfargo.com
(515)-441-0814


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:52 AM
To: users@maven.apache.org
Subject: Re: Is it necessary to learn XML in order to lear Maven?

On 27/06/2013 11:35 AM, cody.a.fy...@wellsfargo.com wrote:
> I would argue that to be a competent, modern computer programmer, you DO need 
> to learn XML.
>
> There are many powerful things that can be accomplished once you have that 
> knowledge.
You are right that in general XML is useful for lots of things and that people 
who know lots of technologies have a much broader palette of solution 
components However, the specific question relates to Maven and you really do 
not need to have any more knowledge of XML than understanding that <something> 
will be terminated by </something> and that they can be nested.

You can use an IDE that will give you a graphic editor for your POM files.
You can cut and paste models of POMs.  Your graphic editor should spot any XML 
validation errors.

Ron

>
> Cody Fyler
> Lending Grid Build Team
> cody.a.fy...@wellsfargo.com
> (515)-441-0814
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ctrueden.w...@gmail.com [mailto:ctrueden.w...@gmail.com] On 
> Behalf Of Curtis Rueden
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:31 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: Is it necessary to learn XML in order to lear Maven?
>
> Hi Nayana,
>
>> Is it necessary to learn XML in order to lear Maven?
> No, if you use Eclipse you can configure your POM in its graphical editor.
> Other IDEs may have similar things.
>
> Even if you edit POMs by hand, XML is "human readable" meaning you don't 
> really need an in-depth understanding of XML in order to hack together a 
> Maven POM.
>
> My definition of "learn XML" would be more like:
> * Understand basics: elements vs. attributes, etc.
> * Understand XML validation; e.g. XSD and DTD
> * Understand XSLT stylesheets
> * Understand parsing: SAX, DOM and XPath
>
> And you certainly do not need to know those things to configure a Maven POM.
>
> Regards,
> Curtis
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Nayana ABREU 
> <holanda.nay...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Is it necessary to learn XML in order to lear Maven?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Nayana Holanda de Abreu
>> holanda.nay...@gmail.com
>> Phone: 662-801-6349
>> Skype: nayanexbourdon
>>
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