Now I get the same thing you do. I better see what's broken in my builds.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Benson Margulies
<bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's odd. Let me run my test again.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Robert Patrick
> <robert.patr...@oracle.com> wrote:
>> I can confirm that it is not possible to override a project property in a 
>> plugin with Maven 3.3.9.  I am not sure what the expected behavior is but 
>> trying to override a pre-initialized value (from command-line -Ds, 
>> .mvn/maven.config, or the POM) from a plugin has no effect...
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: M. Richey [mailto:mric...@gmx.de]
>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:16 AM
>> To: users@maven.apache.org
>> Cc: Maven Users List
>> Subject: Aw: Re: Re: [Regression] Declared properties could not be modified 
>> anymore within a plugin
>>
>> Thanks Benson, but it does not work for me.
>>
>> During the execution it says:
>>
>> [main] [DEBUG] define property osgi-version = "1.0.0.v20161010082844"
>>
>> But in the MANIFEST.MF it says:
>>
>> Manifest-Version: 1.0
>> Built-By: maik
>> demo: bad
>> Created-By: Apache Maven 3.3.9
>> Build-Jdk: 1.8.0_66
>>
>> So, as I said before, during the execution the property gets set and the 
>> pre-initialized value is used afterwards.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Maik
>>
>>
>>> Gesendet: Samstag, 08. Oktober 2016 um 16:45 Uhr
>>> Von: "Benson Margulies" <bimargul...@gmail.com>
>>> An: "Maven Users List" <users@maven.apache.org>
>>> Betreff: Re: Re: [Regression] Declared properties could not be
>>> modified anymore within a plugin
>>>
>>> https://github.com/benson-basis/prop-override-example
>>>
>>> Seems to be a demo that
>>>
>>> https://github.com/basis-technology-corp/basis-build-helper-maven-plug
>>> in
>>>
>>> overrides properties.
>>>
>>> Using:
>>>
>>> private void defineProperty(String name, String value) {
>>>     if (getLog().isDebugEnabled()) {
>>>       getLog().debug("define property " + name + " = \"" + value + "\"");
>>>     }
>>>     project.getProperties().put(name, value); }
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:35 AM, M. Richey <mric...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> >> Thanks Benson to point that out, it's a good example.
>>> >>
>>> >> We have several use cases where we modify properties with our plugins. 
>>> >> We have a large variety of our software which to build for up to three 
>>> >> brands. For which brand a specific software is to build is defined 
>>> >> outside the poms and provided by our plugin. As we all know you can't 
>>> >> loop inside the poms. So we execute a plugin once for each brand to find 
>>> >> out if this variant should be build for the brand specified. Therefore 
>>> >> we defined a property in the pom.xml, pre-initialized with a default 
>>> >> value, and if the software should be build for one brand, the brand is 
>>> >> appended to the list, i.e. the value of the property, during the 
>>> >> execution of our plugin. So the value of the property may be something 
>>> >> like "default,brand1,brand3" after the executions of the plugin.
>>> >>
>>> >> So for us it is a blocker at the moment that one can't modify properties 
>>> >> during the execution of a plugin anymore.
>>> >>
>>> >> Benson, you said you have some of these working with 3.3.9. Can you give 
>>> >> an example of a plugin where this is working? I would like to see how 
>>> >> they are doing it in their code.
>>> >
>>> > I'd better do a test to ensure that they are working as well as I
>>> > think they are and then get back to you.
>>> >>
>>> >> Kind regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Maik
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 02. Oktober 2016 um 22:04 Uhr
>>> >>> Von: "Benson Margulies" <bimargul...@gmail.com>
>>> >>> An: "Maven Users List" <users@maven.apache.org>, i...@soebes.de
>>> >>> Betreff: Re: [Regression] Declared properties could not be
>>> >>> modified anymore within a plugin
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise 
>>> >>> <khmarba...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> >>> > Hi,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On 30/09/16 15:20, mric...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> we discovered a problem with properties defined in a pom.xml.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Properties could be defined in a pom.xml like:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> <properties>
>>> >>> >> <myProp>default</myProp>
>>> >>> >> </properties>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> In a maven plugin we fetch all the properties by calling:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Properties projectProps = project.getProperties();
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Running all this with maven 2 we were able to modify the value of 
>>> >>> >> "myProp"
>>> >>> >> within the plugin by:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> projectProps.put("myProp", "newValue");
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> So after the execution of the plugin, the property <myProp> has
>>> >>> >> the value "newValue".
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Running all this with maven 3 that does not work anymore.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > First I would say this is by design wrong, cause if you define a
>>> >>> > property in the pom file I would like to be sure that it will be
>>> >>> > kept the value I have given and if a plugin (which could it be)
>>> >>> > will change that I will be really astonished.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Apart from that my question: Why do you need to change existing
>>> >>> > properties and why not changing the in the pom which is more
>>> >>> > clearer than mysteriously chaning a property by a plugin?...
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Can you give more details about your use case ? Best would be
>>> >>> > having a real workign example and what kind of problems you are
>>> >>> > trying to solve with this approach?
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Kind regards
>>> >>> > Karl Heinz Marbaise
>>> >>> >
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>>> >>> Here's why this is important.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Consider a plugin with the job of setting a property, like many of
>>> >>> the build-helper goals, or the build-number plugin.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Now, consider an IDE. The IDEs don't, in general, know about these
>>> >>> plugins. They get confused when they don't have a value at all.
>>> >>> So, SOP is is to put a harmless default into the POM, and count on
>>> >>> the plugin overwriting it. I have some of these working with
>>> >>> 3.3.9, so there must be something more subtle going on.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >
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